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> Really seems like Mozilla should be turned into a CO-OP or something. I wonder if the people being fired would be sufficiently equipped to do that themselves

> Really seems like Mozilla should be turned into a CO-OP or something. I wonder if the people being fired would be sufficiently equipped to do that themselves. Though losing access to the branding may not be workable.

techntoke 6y ago
Time to fork it
elcritch 6y ago
Hmmm... if they could raise money, Servo and the "rust" link could have decent brand backing... Many alpha-geeks know of it.
- guerrilla 6y ago
  Yeah, you're probably right especially considering rust. Maybe they can crowdfund it. I think a lot of us and many others using OSS would pitch in to see that happen.
  - rjknight 6y ago
    Same. As someone building a web app, the existence of good non-Blink/Webkit browsers is matter of importance to me, and I'd happily help to fund alternatives.
    - smnthermes 6y ago
      WebCore is already far diverged from Blink, and V8 was made from the scratch. WebKit is a solid alternative to Chromium.
elric 6y ago
At this rate, the name is starting to become associated with incompetence, so maybe a fork with a new name might be a good idea. A co-op would make for an interesting business model for a FOSS company. Has this been tried before? Are there any well known cases out there?
- dandellion 6y ago
  The atrocious management is the main reason I refuse to donate a cent to Mozilla. I have no problem donating monthly to Blender and Godot, even though I don't use those nearly as much as Firefox. I would love to support the developers if they made a fork that was actually supported by the community.
  - sanxiyn 6y ago
    Especially problematic is that there is no way to donate to Firefox. None. Neither is there way to donate to Rust. As a result, I donate to Zig, but not to Rust.
    - elric 6y ago
      The same seems true for many projects under the Apache Software Foundation banner. You can donate to the ASF, but not to (most? many?) individual projects. Might be nice for these types of foundations to update their donations policy. Support project-specific donations, and maybe take some % to support the parent foundation's working.
- mulmen 6y ago
  I don’t have any negative association with the Firefox name (yet) but I definitely do with the Mozilla name.

techntoke 6y ago

Time to fork it

elcritch 6y ago

Hmmm... if they could raise money, Servo and the "rust" link could have decent brand backing... Many alpha-geeks know of it.

guerrilla 6y ago
Yeah, you're probably right especially considering rust. Maybe they can crowdfund it. I think a lot of us and many others using OSS would pitch in to see that happen.
- rjknight 6y ago
  Same. As someone building a web app, the existence of good non-Blink/Webkit browsers is matter of importance to me, and I'd happily help to fund alternatives.
  - smnthermes 6y ago
    WebCore is already far diverged from Blink, and V8 was made from the scratch. WebKit is a solid alternative to Chromium.

elric 6y ago

At this rate, the name is starting to become associated with incompetence, so maybe a fork with a new name might be a good idea. A co-op would make for an interesting business model for a FOSS company. Has this been tried before? Are there any well known cases out there?

dandellion 6y ago
The atrocious management is the main reason I refuse to donate a cent to Mozilla. I have no problem donating monthly to Blender and Godot, even though I don't use those nearly as much as Firefox. I would love to support the developers if they made a fork that was actually supported by the community.
- sanxiyn 6y ago
  Especially problematic is that there is no way to donate to Firefox. None. Neither is there way to donate to Rust. As a result, I donate to Zig, but not to Rust.
  - elric 6y ago
    The same seems true for many projects under the Apache Software Foundation banner. You can donate to the ASF, but not to (most? many?) individual projects. Might be nice for these types of foundations to update their donations policy. Support project-specific donations, and maybe take some % to support the parent foundation's working.
mulmen 6y ago
I don’t have any negative association with the Firefox name (yet) but I definitely do with the Mozilla name.