> over time I've found myself more intrinsically motivated by building what I think of as well-designed systems. That, to me, is art. That's what I get excited

> over time I've found myself more intrinsically motivated by building what I think of as well-designed systems. That, to me, is art. That's what I get excited about. Me too. But art without constraints is boring. What gets me off is building the most perfect well designed system possible within the constraint of shipping things that solve real problems for real people and the business.