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You want to kill someone but you can’t because that’s like totally illegal so you just hire a hitman and now it’s just a business expense.

• qwertox 6y ago
  It's not really the same. Killing someone is illegal, regardless of who is doing it. For the TSA it is illegal to collect the information, but apparently it is not illegal for the outsourced companies. Also, in Garmin's case it was not illegal for Arete IR to offer the service of ransomware negotiation.
  • setr 6y ago
    The killing example still bites you because the intent to kill, knowing & abetting, etc still matters, regardless of method to do so. It's not just the murder, but also everything around the murder that gets swept into it. It seems to me data collection is illegal, so TSA doesnt do it directly -- the problem is that TSA intends to collect, and knowingly (and provably?) works around it, but is not being punished for it.
    • qwertox 6y ago
      This is not really true. The TSA does not intend to collect, but to obtain an "ok person", "not-ok person" stamp. Then they decide with the info they gathered in the conversation with the person in question. They are not obtaining the data and have no intention of doing so. Yet a stamp like "criminal activity in the past" would be a questionable one. I don't know how they stamp the person. Nevertheless I think they are doing a bad thing, because you can rest assured that this collected data won't get deleted, possibly even sold to 3rd parties.