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Each time somebody mentions, that 'libxslt2' is on an XPath 1.0 level (20 years old, we are at v3.1, currently) and how nice an update would be, the common agre

by zmix 6y ago

Each time somebody mentions, that 'libxslt2' is on an XPath 1.0 level (20 years old, we are at v3.1, currently) and how nice an update would be, the common agreement is the same: "lots of work, which nobody pays for." Just thinking about all the money they burned through, how great would it have been, to bring XML up to current standards, and to support it well in Firefox. I mention this, because it is important, that we have at least one browser in the market, that understands XML native. Or what would be if "Ubiquity" would have become an integral part of Firefox? Wow, just wow! I hate these people. They totally ignored the desire of many folks for a WYSIWYG XUL IDE back in the day as well... Instead they made Firefoxy parties, sold T-Shirts and coffee-mugs, implemented 'Persona', 'Hello' and what not! Did you just say, they bought 'Pocket'? Holy moly! I thought it was just a strategic relationship.

tomc1985 6y ago
Especially ironic considering that Firefox's UI chrome markup language (XUL) is (was?)... XML. And javascript. It was like a not-shitty Electron ahead of its time by like 20 years. I'm still bitter about XUL being irrelevant now.
TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
They bought pocket and, in my opinion, overpaid for it significantly (quite a few of us were mad at that at the time). There was some relationship between the creator of Pocket and one or more Mozilla executives and/or board members that made the whole purchase stink in more ways than one. First thing i do on a new Firefox profile (for the one machine I have still running Firefox) is disable Pocket.
tannhaeuser 6y ago
What has XML to do with anything?
- zmix 6y ago
  XML is the only serious, modern document format we have and well within the realm of web browsers.
72deluxe 6y ago
Very informative! I remember using Mozilla alongside Netscape with the entire suite for editing etc. versus Frontpage. And when Phoenix/Firebird came out how it was very basic but a slimmed down version of Mozilla. It seemed they lost their way and just became the old Mozilla browser but with lots of features nobody wanted (Pocket??) and a tonne of other things I have no idea why they got involved in. Perhaps they just employed developers who liked writing new things.

by zmix 6y ago

tomc1985 6y ago

Especially ironic considering that Firefox's UI chrome markup language (XUL) is (was?)... XML. And javascript. It was like a not-shitty Electron ahead of its time by like 20 years. I'm still bitter about XUL being irrelevant now.

TedDoesntTalk 6y ago

They bought pocket and, in my opinion, overpaid for it significantly (quite a few of us were mad at that at the time). There was some relationship between the creator of Pocket and one or more Mozilla executives and/or board members that made the whole purchase stink in more ways than one. First thing i do on a new Firefox profile (for the one machine I have still running Firefox) is disable Pocket.

tannhaeuser 6y ago

What has XML to do with anything?

zmix 6y ago
XML is the only serious, modern document format we have and well within the realm of web browsers.

72deluxe 6y ago

Very informative! I remember using Mozilla alongside Netscape with the entire suite for editing etc. versus Frontpage. And when Phoenix/Firebird came out how it was very basic but a slimmed down version of Mozilla. It seemed they lost their way and just became the old Mozilla browser but with lots of features nobody wanted (Pocket??) and a tonne of other things I have no idea why they got involved in. Perhaps they just employed developers who liked writing new things.