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Your right to cross state lines and travel freely does not include any right to a particular mode of transportation. You would pretty much have to argue that i

Your right to cross state lines and travel freely does not include any right to a particular mode of transportation. You would pretty much have to argue that interstate travel is impracticable without airplanes and that trains/buses/your feet don't suffice.

monocasa 6y ago
The fact that trains/buses/your feet doesn't suffice has already been covered in Gilmore v. Gonzales, among other similar points in the same area.
- Reelin 6y ago
  From the Wikipedia entry: > there was no constitutional violation because air passengers could still travel without identification if they instead underwent the more stringent "secondary screening" search I wasn't aware that I could decline to show ID at an airport security checkpoint in favor of undergoing a secondary screening. Does this actually work in practice? (Also, I wonder how it squares with automated facial recognition and similar biometric technology?)
  - monocasa 6y ago
    Yeah, I've done it. You just get your bags searched a little harder as if you had been "randomly selected for additional screening".
  - njarboe 6y ago
    Yes it works. If you lose your ID or someone steals your wallet on a trip and you can still take the airplane back home before getting a new one.
    - jdhn 6y ago
      So theoretically if I show up at the airport and claim that I lost my license but had proof that I purchased the tickets, what would happen? Would they just search me in more detail than they already do?
      - monocasa 6y ago
        Practically it depends on who you are. As a nerdy white programmer, I got a just a look through my luggage and a swab down for explosives. I've heard of people getting questioned for an hour though in addition to my experience. These were all people of color.
      - kube-system 6y ago
        From the article: > 1. The TSA admits that people can and do fly without ID. > Prior to the COVID-19 National Emergency, TSA encountered over 2.5 million passengers a day and, on average, 600 instances of passengers without acceptable ID. These individuals are able to verify their identity via telephone through our National Transportation Vetting Center (NTVC).
Spooky23 6y ago
Exactly, you are free to walk between states. Just keep yourself clean looking. Some towns don’t like vagrants.

monocasa 6y ago

The fact that trains/buses/your feet doesn't suffice has already been covered in Gilmore v. Gonzales, among other similar points in the same area.

Reelin 6y ago
From the Wikipedia entry: > there was no constitutional violation because air passengers could still travel without identification if they instead underwent the more stringent "secondary screening" search I wasn't aware that I could decline to show ID at an airport security checkpoint in favor of undergoing a secondary screening. Does this actually work in practice? (Also, I wonder how it squares with automated facial recognition and similar biometric technology?)
- monocasa 6y ago
  Yeah, I've done it. You just get your bags searched a little harder as if you had been "randomly selected for additional screening".
- njarboe 6y ago
  Yes it works. If you lose your ID or someone steals your wallet on a trip and you can still take the airplane back home before getting a new one.
  - jdhn 6y ago
    So theoretically if I show up at the airport and claim that I lost my license but had proof that I purchased the tickets, what would happen? Would they just search me in more detail than they already do?
    - monocasa 6y ago
      Practically it depends on who you are. As a nerdy white programmer, I got a just a look through my luggage and a swab down for explosives. I've heard of people getting questioned for an hour though in addition to my experience. These were all people of color.
    - kube-system 6y ago
      From the article: > 1. The TSA admits that people can and do fly without ID. > Prior to the COVID-19 National Emergency, TSA encountered over 2.5 million passengers a day and, on average, 600 instances of passengers without acceptable ID. These individuals are able to verify their identity via telephone through our National Transportation Vetting Center (NTVC).

Spooky23 6y ago

Exactly, you are free to walk between states. Just keep yourself clean looking. Some towns don’t like vagrants.