> You can do anything if you relax the constraint that people are willing to use your tool. I used Jami until I found Matrix. The only reason I shifted was Mat

> You can do anything if you relax the constraint that people are willing to use your tool. I used Jami until I found Matrix. The only reason I shifted was Matrix was more interoperable with other protocols, and riot.im's interface was more like Discord, which is what my circle wanted to use but I refused. Regardless, the threat model for this discussion is one where the targets have the option to use any messenger they want to communicate within themselves. I see no reason why they would be unwilling to use Jami. > PGP is a perfectly cromulent secure messenger! I recognize this is not what you are stating but... PGP + Email + A nice client, yes I would agree, and it checks all of the security and privacy boxes. Edit: Just saw > (If it reads like a personalized attack on an argument that you believe in, I apologize, and will dial it back). It's not that I believe in it per se, but that it reads more aggressively then seems appropriate for a board like HN. That said, I am still a bit of a noob here, so what do I know. That said, I see no reason a messenger couldn't do this, I used one that did for a while.