I seriously doubt that a lot of the “such-and-such mean that the terrorists won” would score very highly on the actual terrorist’s criteria for success... they

I seriously doubt that a lot of the “such-and-such mean that the terrorists won” would score very highly on the actual terrorist’s criteria for success... they seriously desired to destroy the West and institute a theocratic Caliphate in the Middle East, and that hasn’t occurred. This is just infra-Western rumination.