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This is surprisingly well written. Indeed, it persuaded me that this SF stock option tax is probably a bad thing. But the article is wrong in one point: a move
by impendia 16y ago
This is surprisingly well written. Indeed, it persuaded me that this SF stock option tax is probably a bad thing.
But the article is wrong in one point: a move to Brisbane would be a painful quality-of-life sacrifice. True, in most major US cities, eight miles doesn't count as a commute, but as a transplant from the suburbs to San Francisco, I can assure you that I appreciate a city where I can walk or take transit most places. Most of my friends and I would take San Francisco over "most major US cities" in a heartbeat. Exorbitant rents and all.
Indeed, although I own a car, many of my friends don't, and I wouldn't be surprised if more than a few Twitter employees are now happily doing without. You can't reasonably get to Brisbane without a car.
- hugh3 16y agoAh, but we're not talking about Brisbane vs Marina or SoMA. We're talking about Brisbane vs Tenderloin, and the Tenderloin is really not the most enticing part of the city. The advantage of working in the city is somewhat nullified when the only available lunch options are "grease burger" and "strip club". > You can't reasonably get to Brisbane without a car. Perhaps, but you can't reasonably get to the Tenderloin with a car, so working at Twitter is now inconvenient for those who don't live close to one of the Bay Area's few good public transport options. Besides, most of the big tech companies in Si Valley nowadays run shuttle buses to San Francisco -- there's nothing to stop twitter from doing the same.
- impendia 16y ago> You can't reasonably get to the Tenderloin with a car Good point. > Most of the big tech companies in Si Valley nowadays run shuttle buses to San Francisco Good point again. Maybe there won't be the mad rush on car dealerships that I was predicting. Still, most of the tech people I know who work in Si Valley are annoyed that their jobs are not in SF. My sample is biased (I met all these people in SF), but I do think having your job in the city is a substantial perk.
- rdouble 16y agoThe part of the tenderloin where Twitter is considering moving is 6th and Market. I personally would call this 'Civic Center', not the loin, but that's a different story. In addition to grease burger and strip club, there is also tu luan, Taqueria Cancun, Showdogs, Passion Cafe, John's Burger, and a number of upstart foodie places. If you're a yuppie who drinks 11 dollar coffee, there is Mint Plaza with the 2 million dollar Blue Bottle, and if you're suburban at heart it's about 2 blocks from the Westfield center. Both muni and Bart stop at civic center, as well as 11 buses and the antique F line trolley. The 101 and Oak street feed right into market street via Octavia, but alas, there is nowhere to park.
- hugh3 16y agoAlright, sixth and Market is about as inoffensive as the Tenderloin gets (with the possible exception of having a reservation at the Bourbon and Branch). Proximity to Westfield and Bluebottle would be a major plus (and, y'know, it's actually only the same price as Starbucks... though I should refrain from recommending Bluebottle to anyone since it's quite crowded enough already).
- rdouble 16y agoDon't get me wrong, it is a zombie movie after dark. I just wouldn't worry too much about getting there or lunch.
- rhizome 16y agoYou're misinformed. The building Twitter is talking about moving to is the San Francisco Mart, which fronts the entire South side of Market St. between 9th and 10th streets. Tu Lan is about a half-mile away.
- rdouble 16y agoAh. Yeah, that's definitely not the tenderloin, but is a wasteland. If that's the case, my whole stance changes and I'm not sure if Brisbane is such a bad option.
- electrum 16y agoLunch options probably aren't a concern for most Twitter employees given that Twitter has a fantastic (both times I was there) free catered lunch.