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You do have the right to travel. The constitution does not specify a mode. Ergo, all modes are protected equally, and no-fly lists are unconstitutional. It's no

by R0b0t1 6y ago

You do have the right to travel. The constitution does not specify a mode. Ergo, all modes are protected equally, and no-fly lists are unconstitutional. It's not like you get a background check to buy a printing press. The ACLU mounted an attack on the no-fly list that was credible enough government changed procedure. This would imply drivers licenses and car registration are also unconstitutional. You can tax them and have traffic laws, but not do those things.

InitialLastName 6y ago
> You do have the right to travel. The constitution does not specify a mode The constitution does not specify the first bit either; it's all been inferred by court rulings [0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_United_States_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_Unit...
- R0b0t1 6y ago
  I'm aware, my view is the court's current views are incomplete. Courts can be wrong. What draws the most interest is the right to enter states freely. Combine that with the need to travel and participate in commerce and you quickly arrive at the conclusion the right to travel in general must also be protected, and indeed we can see the hardships brought upon people when they are unable to drive, etc.
  - ac29 6y ago
    Good luck arguing your opinion though - go watch a few videos of "sovereign citizens" trying to argue they don't need a driver's license to "travel" when pulled over driving.
- saalweachter 6y ago
  Always remember the Ninth Amendment: the rights enumerated in the constitution are not more real than the rights which were not explicitly listed.
MichaelBurge 6y ago
If you fly between states you're engaging in interstate commerce. So the federal government can ban it. Even if someone offers you a flight for free, that takes away from alternatives like driving(which funds gas stations, hotels, restaurants, etc.). So your choice to fly affects interstate commerce, and they can ban that too.

by R0b0t1 6y ago

InitialLastName 6y ago

> You do have the right to travel. The constitution does not specify a mode The constitution does not specify the first bit either; it's all been inferred by court rulings [0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_United_States_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_Unit...

R0b0t1 6y ago
I'm aware, my view is the court's current views are incomplete. Courts can be wrong. What draws the most interest is the right to enter states freely. Combine that with the need to travel and participate in commerce and you quickly arrive at the conclusion the right to travel in general must also be protected, and indeed we can see the hardships brought upon people when they are unable to drive, etc.
- ac29 6y ago
  Good luck arguing your opinion though - go watch a few videos of "sovereign citizens" trying to argue they don't need a driver's license to "travel" when pulled over driving.
saalweachter 6y ago
Always remember the Ninth Amendment: the rights enumerated in the constitution are not more real than the rights which were not explicitly listed.

MichaelBurge 6y ago

If you fly between states you're engaging in interstate commerce. So the federal government can ban it. Even if someone offers you a flight for free, that takes away from alternatives like driving(which funds gas stations, hotels, restaurants, etc.). So your choice to fly affects interstate commerce, and they can ban that too.