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Making a browser is Mozilla’s purpose. If Mozilla can’t do that, it doesn’t have a reason to exist and will fail. If the Feed the Children charity decides that

Making a browser is Mozilla’s purpose. If Mozilla can’t do that, it doesn’t have a reason to exist and will fail. If the Feed the Children charity decides that feeding children is too hard and decides to water plants instead, I expect it will fail too.

gfodor 6y ago
The Mozilla Manifesto says nothing about web browsers. If you think they should throw it out and focus on making web browsers (and abandon their mission as an organization) you'll have to take it up with them I guess.
- ofrzeta 6y ago
  Well, 99% of "the Internet" is the web, so a free web browser is the vital part in that. And not some tool about "remixing HTML" or open badges or something [1] [1] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/artifacts/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/artifacts/
  - smabie 6y ago
    With mobile native apps, there's no way that 99% of the internet is the web. Video accounts for 60% of total web traffic, and a good chunk of that is not through a web browser, I'd imagine.
    - ofrzeta 6y ago
      I think most access to video is through the browser as well. Why not make Firefox the #1 Netflix platform?
      - tvshtr 6y ago
        you're insane, average mobile user won't use a platform unless it has an "app". Companies purposely push users with intrusive popups and half or full page overlays into their apps, or just block access in some way
  - nitemice 6y ago
    And unique, independent expression is also vital. That's why they've tried in the past (and hopefully continue to do so) to provide resources like you're pointing at to "the public" to build and create their own special place on the Internet. Something outside the gated ecosystems of those big internet companies (Facebook, Twitter, etc). Have they gotten it perfectly right every time? No, but that's okay, and it's good that they're even trying because not that many people (or companies) are.

gfodor 6y ago

The Mozilla Manifesto says nothing about web browsers. If you think they should throw it out and focus on making web browsers (and abandon their mission as an organization) you'll have to take it up with them I guess.

ofrzeta 6y ago
Well, 99% of "the Internet" is the web, so a free web browser is the vital part in that. And not some tool about "remixing HTML" or open badges or something [1] [1] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/artifacts/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/artifacts/
- smabie 6y ago
  With mobile native apps, there's no way that 99% of the internet is the web. Video accounts for 60% of total web traffic, and a good chunk of that is not through a web browser, I'd imagine.
  - ofrzeta 6y ago
    I think most access to video is through the browser as well. Why not make Firefox the #1 Netflix platform?
    - tvshtr 6y ago
      you're insane, average mobile user won't use a platform unless it has an "app". Companies purposely push users with intrusive popups and half or full page overlays into their apps, or just block access in some way
- nitemice 6y ago
  And unique, independent expression is also vital. That's why they've tried in the past (and hopefully continue to do so) to provide resources like you're pointing at to "the public" to build and create their own special place on the Internet. Something outside the gated ecosystems of those big internet companies (Facebook, Twitter, etc). Have they gotten it perfectly right every time? No, but that's okay, and it's good that they're even trying because not that many people (or companies) are.