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Sometimes it feels like there are people out there who want Mozilla to fail and gleefully seek ways to make that happen (even by doing something as simple as am

Sometimes it feels like there are people out there who want Mozilla to fail and gleefully seek ways to make that happen (even by doing something as simple as amplifying misinformation), even though it is not really in their interests to do so.

kgraves 6y ago
Who are these people who want Mozilla to fail?
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24120425 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24120425 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24120742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24120742
  - jefftk 6y ago
    Note that both of those comments are [dead]. Wanting Mozilla to fail is a very fringe opinion.
  - dependenttypes 6y ago
    The first person wants mozilla to experience a failure as to wake them up and make them focus on the browser, not for mozilla to fail in general. The second person does not say that they want mozilla to fail.
rleigh 6y ago
I've never seen any indication that anyone wants Mozilla to fail. But after seeing several years of repeated strategic blunders and bad management, and Firefox slip from being the most popular web browser by a comfortable margin to a single digit percentage market share, which is still sliding down, I think the available evidence shows that they have failed quite badly, and for the most part through problems of their own making. Now, I'd like to use Firefox again, but they have regain strong technical focus first. They are all over the place doing irrelevant stuff. I'm surprised they even have that many staff to lay off in the first place given their financial situation. There must be a large percentage of non-jobs amongst that thousand, because they certainly weren't all dedicated to making a good web browser.
- AsyncAwait 6y ago
  > But after seeing several years of repeated strategic blunders and bad management Not that I disagree, but it's probably easy being a captain from the outside.

kgraves 6y ago

Who are these people who want Mozilla to fail?

pseudalopex 6y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24120425 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24120425 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24120742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24120742
- jefftk 6y ago
  Note that both of those comments are [dead]. Wanting Mozilla to fail is a very fringe opinion.
- dependenttypes 6y ago
  The first person wants mozilla to experience a failure as to wake them up and make them focus on the browser, not for mozilla to fail in general. The second person does not say that they want mozilla to fail.

rleigh 6y ago

I've never seen any indication that anyone wants Mozilla to fail. But after seeing several years of repeated strategic blunders and bad management, and Firefox slip from being the most popular web browser by a comfortable margin to a single digit percentage market share, which is still sliding down, I think the available evidence shows that they have failed quite badly, and for the most part through problems of their own making. Now, I'd like to use Firefox again, but they have regain strong technical focus first. They are all over the place doing irrelevant stuff. I'm surprised they even have that many staff to lay off in the first place given their financial situation. There must be a large percentage of non-jobs amongst that thousand, because they certainly weren't all dedicated to making a good web browser.

AsyncAwait 6y ago
> But after seeing several years of repeated strategic blunders and bad management Not that I disagree, but it's probably easy being a captain from the outside.