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I loved Firefox Send and really hope they can find a way to address the malware problem [1]. It was the only large file sharing service I fully trusted both bec
by Chirael 6y ago
I loved Firefox Send and really hope they can find a way to address the malware problem [1]. It was the only large file sharing service I fully trusted both because of the encrypted zero-knowledge aspect of the system and the organization behind it; I used it several times a month personally and told others about it. To me it was a "win" under the Mozilla/FF brand.
[1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-suspends-firefox-send-service-while-it-addresses-malware-abuse/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-suspends-firefox-send-...
- BMorearty 6y agoI love Send too! Didn’t know they took it down.
- andredz 6y agoI too used Firefox Send quite a bit and told others about it.
- GordonS 6y agoI tried to use it recently and found it had been taken down. I was puzzled as to why they would do that, but didn't dig into it - now I know, thanks!
- theobeers 6y agoWow, that’s a bummer. I used Send semi-regularly over the past year, and recommended it to colleagues. By coincidence, I haven’t needed it since early summer. How are they supposed to address the malware problem without making significant changes to the system? “Just add abuse reporting” sounds expensive, in terms of moderation. And there’s still the reputational risk of having God-knows-what encrypted content served through a subdomain of firefox.com. While I liked being able to share trusted URLs, something tells me that ain’t coming back.
- AsyncAwait 6y agoI like https://github.com/warner/magic-wormhole https://github.com/warner/magic-wormhole as an alternative.
- leeoniya 6y agoalso https://github.com/schollz/croc https://github.com/schollz/croc
- AsyncAwait 6y agoNeat. Honestly a single binary is a major selling point for me. :-)
- psanford 6y agoThis is a single binary that is compatible with the python magic wormhole: https://github.com/psanford/wormhole-william https://github.com/psanford/wormhole-william
- 9935c101ab17a66 6y agoThanks for sharing, looks really cool.
- bscphil 6y agoI think they have rather different use cases. FFsend is asynchronous because I don't have to be online for my friend to download the file. But it's also less trustworthy than a system based on PAKE. And if you're sending a file to a Windows or Mac user with average technical ability, Wormhole is basically not an option at present.
- 9935c101ab17a66 6y agoYah, I really liked it. Have you found any other similar services that have a web ui (other commenters have shared similar CLI-based tools)? I loved using it to share stuff with my less technically-savvy friends and family.
- laughinghan 6y agoSince this is so useful, and has operational costs because they have to run a server, could they solve two problems in one go by just charging money for it? Like $10/year or something tiny. Bet the malware issue would go way down.
- Chirael 6y agoYeah, I agree. I offered on Twitter to pay a "small amount yearly" but my tweet was just a single random data point on Twitter. Hopefully some folks reading this who work at Mozilla or know someone who does, will pass on that a non-trivial people spoke up to say they got real value out of Send.