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/That/ I would pay for. Add in Matrix server(s) , email hosting and I'm a subscriber.

mxuribe 6y ago
Pay Mozilla for email hosting and matrix homeserver hosting!?! YES, PLEASE! Oh, and in my monthly fees, i can simply add $1 or $2 per month to donate directly to the browser team s well? YES, PLEASE, where do i sign up!?!?!?!?! While I'm serious about the above, forgive my capitalization and excessive punctuation...but this is honestly a great idea. For Mozilla - which is a company that i trust - to offer a paid service for 3 of the most essential internet services - web browsing, email, and chat (via matrix) - would be a great product offering. They could even offer other additional stuff like the VPN service i heard about...which generates so much value for users, and by making it a paid service, makes it sustainable. I'll add the caveat that none of these would be amazing money-makers, and stuff like managing email is hard, but it is a start, and at least brings in revenue. Maybe not so revolutionary (as a set of offerings), but sometimes foundational things provide the platform for future awesomeness.
- floatingatoll 6y ago
  Would it be acceptable for the third-party provider (whether Mozilla or not) that you're paying email and matrix hosting services to run automated content scanners on the email and chat server to detect known malware and child pornography content signatures? A lot of people take for granted that "I pay you money" implies "I have the right to use your service without you having any right to inspect my usage of your service", and it'd be useful to know your views on that.
  - frabbit 6y ago
    Are you claiming that Mullvad are doing the same for the Firefox-brand VPN? If not why are you making a distinction between email,matrix and vpn services?
    - floatingatoll 6y ago
      I claim nothing, and I know nothing, about whether this provider you’ve named (or any other) do or not. My question is driven by curiosity about the views of an HN commenter. I chose those services based on the list in the parent’s post only; I could have filled in any service where the provider hosts your data on storage for you (eg. Usenet, RSS feedreader, web forum, file sharing). I don’t consider VPNs to be a service that host the data you interact with on their own storage, so they aren’t of interest to my question.
  - mxuribe 6y ago
    I guess this is an unexpected question. But definitely support automatic content scans but paired with proper, legal due process. I think malware is an easier thing to get automated but other stuff might be more difficult.
    - floatingatoll 6y ago
      It is indeed out of left field, and that’s not any fault of yours. Thank you for taking the time to consider and reply.

Pay Mozilla for email hosting and matrix homeserver hosting!?! YES, PLEASE! Oh, and in my monthly fees, i can simply add $1 or $2 per month to donate directly to the browser team s well? YES, PLEASE, where do i sign up!?!?!?!?! While I'm serious about the above, forgive my capitalization and excessive punctuation...but this is honestly a great idea. For Mozilla - which is a company that i trust - to offer a paid service for 3 of the most essential internet services - web browsing, email, and chat (via matrix) - would be a great product offering. They could even offer other additional stuff like the VPN service i heard about...which generates so much value for users, and by making it a paid service, makes it sustainable. I'll add the caveat that none of these would be amazing money-makers, and stuff like managing email is hard, but it is a start, and at least brings in revenue. Maybe not so revolutionary (as a set of offerings), but sometimes foundational things provide the platform for future awesomeness.

floatingatoll 6y ago
Would it be acceptable for the third-party provider (whether Mozilla or not) that you're paying email and matrix hosting services to run automated content scanners on the email and chat server to detect known malware and child pornography content signatures? A lot of people take for granted that "I pay you money" implies "I have the right to use your service without you having any right to inspect my usage of your service", and it'd be useful to know your views on that.
- frabbit 6y ago
  Are you claiming that Mullvad are doing the same for the Firefox-brand VPN? If not why are you making a distinction between email,matrix and vpn services?
  - floatingatoll 6y ago
    I claim nothing, and I know nothing, about whether this provider you’ve named (or any other) do or not. My question is driven by curiosity about the views of an HN commenter. I chose those services based on the list in the parent’s post only; I could have filled in any service where the provider hosts your data on storage for you (eg. Usenet, RSS feedreader, web forum, file sharing). I don’t consider VPNs to be a service that host the data you interact with on their own storage, so they aren’t of interest to my question.
- mxuribe 6y ago
  I guess this is an unexpected question. But definitely support automatic content scans but paired with proper, legal due process. I think malware is an easier thing to get automated but other stuff might be more difficult.
  - floatingatoll 6y ago
    It is indeed out of left field, and that’s not any fault of yours. Thank you for taking the time to consider and reply.