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Thing is, Google doesn't try to sell itself otherwise. Mozilla talks a good game about privacy and users-first, but then it goes and does things like Pocket, Mr

Thing is, Google doesn't try to sell itself otherwise. Mozilla talks a good game about privacy and users-first, but then it goes and does things like Pocket, Mr. Robot, etc. that make it clear it is all just marketing. Edit: Uh, my memory was faulty on this one. See below.

dblohm7 6y ago
> Personally I'm still upset about that time they fired a guy for having a fetish and then pretending they cared about inclusivity. Citation?
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
  Apparently my memory is faulty and I'm conflating separate events at different companies even. Withdrawn.
emptyparadise 6y ago
Surely the best way to handle problems with the town's only firefighter isn't leaping into the raging flames?
acdha 6y ago
What was the actual, real problem with Pocket? Adding an easily-removed link to the UI didn't leak your private data or otherwise cause problems.
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  Mozilla replaced a feature that was end to end encrypted with one that sent private data to a third party for data mining. They denied getting paid for the integration. That was technically true. They eventually admitted they got paid for referrals. They bought the company in 2017 and promised to release the source code. They still haven't. The Pocket website says "as a member of the Firefox family, privacy is paramount."[1] The first part is misleading and the second part is simply false. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/pocket/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/pocket/
- toyg 6y ago
  The whole Pocket affair reeked of “Valley connections” and corruption, and resulted in a net loss of privacy for Firefox users compared to what was there before. I use Firefox and will likely never stop using it, but that and FFOS, I felt, were signs that MoCo was being run like “just another company” rather than something that should have a strong moral and ethical compass.

dblohm7 6y ago

> Personally I'm still upset about that time they fired a guy for having a fetish and then pretending they cared about inclusivity. Citation?

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
Apparently my memory is faulty and I'm conflating separate events at different companies even. Withdrawn.

emptyparadise 6y ago

Surely the best way to handle problems with the town's only firefighter isn't leaping into the raging flames?

acdha 6y ago

What was the actual, real problem with Pocket? Adding an easily-removed link to the UI didn't leak your private data or otherwise cause problems.

pseudalopex 6y ago
Mozilla replaced a feature that was end to end encrypted with one that sent private data to a third party for data mining. They denied getting paid for the integration. That was technically true. They eventually admitted they got paid for referrals. They bought the company in 2017 and promised to release the source code. They still haven't. The Pocket website says "as a member of the Firefox family, privacy is paramount."[1] The first part is misleading and the second part is simply false. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/pocket/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/pocket/
toyg 6y ago
The whole Pocket affair reeked of “Valley connections” and corruption, and resulted in a net loss of privacy for Firefox users compared to what was there before. I use Firefox and will likely never stop using it, but that and FFOS, I felt, were signs that MoCo was being run like “just another company” rather than something that should have a strong moral and ethical compass.