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Tom Cruise's jacket says a lot about Hollywood's craven attitude to China

30 points by aaron695 6y ago

djohnston 6y ago
It's undeniable, but arguably not surprising from an institution that has really distanced itself from artistry over the past 30 years. The incessant deluge of cookie cutter marvel garbage reveals that it's only about maximizing profits to a global audience, and China is a huge market.
- nix23 6y ago
  >cookie cutter marvel garbage THANK you so much for saying that, it's so true! And not just Hollywood just look how they slaughtered StartTrek, showing gays lesbians and strong woman's is totally good, but on the other side torturing Animals being a War-horny Civilization and all in all the total opposite of Gene Roddenberry's vision is just disgusting, they don't even understand the material and fan-base they work with (Star Trek Discovery)....damn assholes, now i watch The Expanse.
  - djohnston 6y ago
    +1 on the expanse, i was sad when i finished the series. Bobbie Draper is one of the most bamf i've ever seen.
    - nix23 6y ago
      >Bobbie Draper Oh yes..what a character!! EDIT: But all of them are really well written and quite on point with the books.
- techslave 6y ago
  exactly. it’s not so much craven as it is purely capitalistic. one should not be surprised. i think it’s fine. i welcome it even. it’s better to be beholden to capital than to the political whims of the day. (not in general, just for an industry that has such power)
ALittleLight 6y ago
I feel tension between wanting to resist a tribalist impulse "China is bad because it's a peer competitor" and a moral impulse to oppose the bad actions of China, e.g. oppression in Hong Kong or of the Uyghur population or imprisoning dissidents with their children. On net, I think I favor economic separation from China. I haven't done enough reading though to really understand expected outcomes.
- nix23 6y ago
  Reminds me allot of that: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-hollywood-helped-hitler-595684 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-hollywood-helped-... Yes yes History repeats itself over and over.
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bitxbitxbitcoin 6y ago
Thanks to PEN America for putting together that report. Here's the link to the original report.[1] I knew about Tom Cruise's jacket but I learned about a lot of other examples that I didn't know about. [1] https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing/ https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing...
diogenescynic 6y ago
Disney reduced John Boyega’s role in the Star Wars movies they released in China to appease racist attitudes towards blacks in China. Seems like we thought capitalism would co-opt China but really it’s been the other way around.

30 points by aaron695 6y ago

It's undeniable, but arguably not surprising from an institution that has really distanced itself from artistry over the past 30 years. The incessant deluge of cookie cutter marvel garbage reveals that it's only about maximizing profits to a global audience, and China is a huge market.

nix23 6y ago
>cookie cutter marvel garbage THANK you so much for saying that, it's so true! And not just Hollywood just look how they slaughtered StartTrek, showing gays lesbians and strong woman's is totally good, but on the other side torturing Animals being a War-horny Civilization and all in all the total opposite of Gene Roddenberry's vision is just disgusting, they don't even understand the material and fan-base they work with (Star Trek Discovery)....damn assholes, now i watch The Expanse.
- djohnston 6y ago
  +1 on the expanse, i was sad when i finished the series. Bobbie Draper is one of the most bamf i've ever seen.
  - nix23 6y ago
    >Bobbie Draper Oh yes..what a character!! EDIT: But all of them are really well written and quite on point with the books.
techslave 6y ago
exactly. it’s not so much craven as it is purely capitalistic. one should not be surprised. i think it’s fine. i welcome it even. it’s better to be beholden to capital than to the political whims of the day. (not in general, just for an industry that has such power)

ALittleLight 6y ago

I feel tension between wanting to resist a tribalist impulse "China is bad because it's a peer competitor" and a moral impulse to oppose the bad actions of China, e.g. oppression in Hong Kong or of the Uyghur population or imprisoning dissidents with their children. On net, I think I favor economic separation from China. I haven't done enough reading though to really understand expected outcomes.

nix23 6y ago
Reminds me allot of that: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-hollywood-helped-hitler-595684 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-hollywood-helped-... Yes yes History repeats itself over and over.
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bitxbitxbitcoin 6y ago

Thanks to PEN America for putting together that report. Here's the link to the original report.[1] I knew about Tom Cruise's jacket but I learned about a lot of other examples that I didn't know about. [1] https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing/ https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing...

diogenescynic 6y ago

Disney reduced John Boyega’s role in the Star Wars movies they released in China to appease racist attitudes towards blacks in China. Seems like we thought capitalism would co-opt China but really it’s been the other way around.