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You make it sound like you are forced to download the app at gunpoint.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
In order to exist as functional part of modern society you pretty much have to be on at least a couple apps that exfiltrate all your data and metadata. Sure you can DIY everything but that comes with a huge time cost that most simply cannot afford. The point out preferring one's data in the hands of a regime that doesn't have jurisdiction to send jack booted thugs to kick in one's door still stands.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
  > In order to exist as functional part of modern society you pretty much have to be on at least a couple apps that exfiltrate all your data and metadata. I think you vastly overestimate 1) how much a functional human in modern society actually needs any of this garbage and 2) how much of that data and metadata is meaningful in regards to someone's privacy.
squarefoot 6y ago
Ah sorry, that wasn't my intention, I don't even use smartphones or social media, smartTVs or closed source operating systems/software (1). My point was, if I have to be concerned about privacy (in fact I actually am, see above) why should I fear about a foreign government while my own one is without any doubt more interested in knowing what I think? Of course should one day I become an important public figure, or a key person in some critical environment, all the data about me would suddenly become gold; that's a very valid point by another commenter. Of course my post was from the point of view of someone who doesn't plan, nor could even choose, to become one anytime soon. (1) hence my comments where very often I argue about closed device drivers and blobs, which are the best possible place for planting spyware.
- executive 6y ago
  > I don't even use smartphones or social media you just posted this to a social media site
  - squarefoot 6y ago
    Well, non those social media sites. USENET is also a social media for that matter, though I think nobody would call it as such.

In order to exist as functional part of modern society you pretty much have to be on at least a couple apps that exfiltrate all your data and metadata. Sure you can DIY everything but that comes with a huge time cost that most simply cannot afford. The point out preferring one's data in the hands of a regime that doesn't have jurisdiction to send jack booted thugs to kick in one's door still stands.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
> In order to exist as functional part of modern society you pretty much have to be on at least a couple apps that exfiltrate all your data and metadata. I think you vastly overestimate 1) how much a functional human in modern society actually needs any of this garbage and 2) how much of that data and metadata is meaningful in regards to someone's privacy.

squarefoot 6y ago

Ah sorry, that wasn't my intention, I don't even use smartphones or social media, smartTVs or closed source operating systems/software (1). My point was, if I have to be concerned about privacy (in fact I actually am, see above) why should I fear about a foreign government while my own one is without any doubt more interested in knowing what I think? Of course should one day I become an important public figure, or a key person in some critical environment, all the data about me would suddenly become gold; that's a very valid point by another commenter. Of course my post was from the point of view of someone who doesn't plan, nor could even choose, to become one anytime soon. (1) hence my comments where very often I argue about closed device drivers and blobs, which are the best possible place for planting spyware.

executive 6y ago
> I don't even use smartphones or social media you just posted this to a social media site
- squarefoot 6y ago
  Well, non those social media sites. USENET is also a social media for that matter, though I think nobody would call it as such.