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Probably because "they" is a group of people/teams and knowledge is not evenly distributed, nor is responsibility concentrated in the right places. This is a c

Probably because "they" is a group of people/teams and knowledge is not evenly distributed, nor is responsibility concentrated in the right places. This is a classic example of "normal failure" and I am sure will join other similar incidents in the literature.

TheOtherHobbes 6y ago
Storing the ammonium nitrate in a single location was bad enough. Storing fireworks in the same warehouse complex was - I honestly can't think of a word that fits.
- grandinj 6y ago
  It's pretty easy - the fireworks were probably a pretty small shipment, and were loaded along with a bunch of other shipments into an anjoining warehouse. I realise this seems weird to people living in a country which has all sorts of extremely restrictive and impressive safety protocols, but in poorer countries, this kind of mistake happens __all the time__. It just doesn't normally result in much more than a small fire.
  - avh02 6y ago
    The (more local) news I'm reading, it was apparently known to be dangerous immediately, and regularly reported (~twice a year), just never actioned to remove it. To me that's where the criminal responsibility lies. The beating-around-the-bush has begun though. Port authorities (who were the ones reporting the danger) were arrested. skimmed, since I'm on the clock, but holds the key info: https://www.mtv.com.lb/en/News/Local/1088201/Lebanons-leaders-warned-in-July-about-explosives-at-port---Reuters https://www.mtv.com.lb/en/News/Local/1088201/Lebanons-leader...
- gwd 6y ago
  > Storing fireworks in the same warehouse complex was - I honestly can't think of a word that fits. And on top of that, according to the article, the fire was started by welders who were trying to repair doors to make the ammonium nitrate secure. It's like the plot of some dumb bloke movie: so absurd it would be comic if it weren't so terrible.

TheOtherHobbes 6y ago

Storing the ammonium nitrate in a single location was bad enough. Storing fireworks in the same warehouse complex was - I honestly can't think of a word that fits.

grandinj 6y ago
It's pretty easy - the fireworks were probably a pretty small shipment, and were loaded along with a bunch of other shipments into an anjoining warehouse. I realise this seems weird to people living in a country which has all sorts of extremely restrictive and impressive safety protocols, but in poorer countries, this kind of mistake happens __all the time__. It just doesn't normally result in much more than a small fire.
- avh02 6y ago
  The (more local) news I'm reading, it was apparently known to be dangerous immediately, and regularly reported (~twice a year), just never actioned to remove it. To me that's where the criminal responsibility lies. The beating-around-the-bush has begun though. Port authorities (who were the ones reporting the danger) were arrested. skimmed, since I'm on the clock, but holds the key info: https://www.mtv.com.lb/en/News/Local/1088201/Lebanons-leaders-warned-in-July-about-explosives-at-port---Reuters https://www.mtv.com.lb/en/News/Local/1088201/Lebanons-leader...
gwd 6y ago
> Storing fireworks in the same warehouse complex was - I honestly can't think of a word that fits. And on top of that, according to the article, the fire was started by welders who were trying to repair doors to make the ammonium nitrate secure. It's like the plot of some dumb bloke movie: so absurd it would be comic if it weren't so terrible.