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Not sure what to feel about this one. I don't like this company, which has already started censoring foreign nationals based on what CCP allows. At the same t

Not sure what to feel about this one. I don't like this company, which has already started censoring foreign nationals based on what CCP allows. At the same time, how can a single person decide the fate of a company in a different country? What will be next? Furthermore, what if EU decides Instagram is somehow a threat and must be shut down?

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itsoktocry 6y ago
>At the same time, how can a single person decide the fate of a company in a different country? How is TikTok's fate being decided by a US ban? The CCP does this all the time, it isn't uncommon to ban foreign software.
- ausbah 6y ago
  because America isn't China?
  - sumedh 6y ago
    So what is your solution to make sure China plays by the rules?
    - La1n 6y ago
      Implement rules that everyone has to follow. A good regulatory privacy framework instead of banning apps from a economic rival.
      - sumedh 6y ago
        How would that enforce China to play by the rules?
        La1n 6y ago
        Cause if they don't you can punish them according to the law. That's how laws work.
        anonymousab 6y ago
        Which is what the US seems to be attempting to do. The president does, under the law, have fairly broad powers when it comes to foreign nations.
        lostmsu 6y ago
        With no clear rules set around the issue I don't trust the president to do random judging.
        ausbah 6y ago
        to single company? how about all the other platforms owned by Chinese companies? League of Legends or the like?
        gpanders 6y ago
        This already exists in the form of the World Trade Organization (WTO) and China already flouts those rules. Your plan has been tried and does not work.
        colejohnson66 6y ago
        So why don’t we sanction the whole country then? Why single out this one app?
falcolas 6y ago
> At the same time, how can a single person decide the fate of a company in a different country? The single person was explicitly elected to speak and act on America’s behalf. The same single person is the commander in chief for America’s military, giving them quite a bit of power when interacting with foreign countries. And they’re impacting a foreign company’s operations in the US, something which seems to fall within the powers granted to them. In general, I don’t like what he’s doing, but the why and how in this case appear to be by the book.

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itsoktocry 6y ago

>At the same time, how can a single person decide the fate of a company in a different country? How is TikTok's fate being decided by a US ban? The CCP does this all the time, it isn't uncommon to ban foreign software.

ausbah 6y ago
because America isn't China?
- sumedh 6y ago
  So what is your solution to make sure China plays by the rules?
  - La1n 6y ago
    Implement rules that everyone has to follow. A good regulatory privacy framework instead of banning apps from a economic rival.
    - sumedh 6y ago
      How would that enforce China to play by the rules?
      - La1n 6y ago
        Cause if they don't you can punish them according to the law. That's how laws work.
        anonymousab 6y ago
        Which is what the US seems to be attempting to do. The president does, under the law, have fairly broad powers when it comes to foreign nations.
        lostmsu 6y ago
        With no clear rules set around the issue I don't trust the president to do random judging.
        ausbah 6y ago
        to single company? how about all the other platforms owned by Chinese companies? League of Legends or the like?
        gpanders 6y ago
        This already exists in the form of the World Trade Organization (WTO) and China already flouts those rules. Your plan has been tried and does not work.
        colejohnson66 6y ago
        So why don’t we sanction the whole country then? Why single out this one app?

falcolas 6y ago

> At the same time, how can a single person decide the fate of a company in a different country? The single person was explicitly elected to speak and act on America’s behalf. The same single person is the commander in chief for America’s military, giving them quite a bit of power when interacting with foreign countries. And they’re impacting a foreign company’s operations in the US, something which seems to fall within the powers granted to them. In general, I don’t like what he’s doing, but the why and how in this case appear to be by the book.