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The main idea of Emacs is unlike other ide's it can be customized greatly to specific users, but Doom Emacs seems to be a ready made configuration. It seems to

The main idea of Emacs is unlike other ide's it can be customized greatly to specific users, but Doom Emacs seems to be a ready made configuration. It seems to be opposite of the main idea behind Emacs, yet Doom Emacs seems to be getting popular. Is there anything i am missing.

smabie 6y ago
You're missing that a default vanilla Emacs experience is pretty shitty. Besides, it's not like you're sacrificing any customizability with Doom/Prelude/Spacemacs, you're just getting a better starting point.
forty 6y ago
Maybe many users don't need a very specific configuration, and a great community made configuration is good enough :) I use Spacemacs which is also a community made emacs configuration and it's great. The fact that I could have made the customization myself does not make this configuration any worse.
contravariant 6y ago
You can consider doom emacs a 'mod' that make it easier to manage your customized emacs config. If anything I found doom to make it easier to stay close to the 'intended' way to customize emacs, since it heavily encourages you to use 'use-package' and 'general.el' to manage your extensions, and gives you good startup performance if you use them as intended (allowing the lazy-loading to do its work). Although it's possible I was simply more familiar with the 'right' way to do it when I moved to Doom from Spacemacs. Either way I got the impression it felt quite close to the way to manipulate 'native' emacs (but with a lot of sensible defaults that I couldn't be bothered to figure out myself).
aasasd 6y ago
I went with the ‘take vanilla and adjust’ route to learn proper Emacs config-ing. Turns out, you pretty much need to implement a bunch of features on top of the 90s Emacs to get a reasonable modern editor, and there isn't a system for config snippets that are smaller than a minor mode (aside from copy-pasting from StackOverflow). I've been meaning to try Doom for some time because it seems to be an answer to just that problem.
vvillena 6y ago
Projects like Doom Emacs and Spacemacs are frameworks. They contain lots of well-made, battle-tested code. They are extensible, too: they usually provide clear points for user extensions and customizations.
zeendo 6y ago
I think what you're missing is that Emacs might be a good fit for things other than "the main idea of Emacs" (whatever that is)

smabie 6y ago

You're missing that a default vanilla Emacs experience is pretty shitty. Besides, it's not like you're sacrificing any customizability with Doom/Prelude/Spacemacs, you're just getting a better starting point.

forty 6y ago

Maybe many users don't need a very specific configuration, and a great community made configuration is good enough :) I use Spacemacs which is also a community made emacs configuration and it's great. The fact that I could have made the customization myself does not make this configuration any worse.

contravariant 6y ago

You can consider doom emacs a 'mod' that make it easier to manage your customized emacs config. If anything I found doom to make it easier to stay close to the 'intended' way to customize emacs, since it heavily encourages you to use 'use-package' and 'general.el' to manage your extensions, and gives you good startup performance if you use them as intended (allowing the lazy-loading to do its work). Although it's possible I was simply more familiar with the 'right' way to do it when I moved to Doom from Spacemacs. Either way I got the impression it felt quite close to the way to manipulate 'native' emacs (but with a lot of sensible defaults that I couldn't be bothered to figure out myself).

aasasd 6y ago

I went with the ‘take vanilla and adjust’ route to learn proper Emacs config-ing. Turns out, you pretty much need to implement a bunch of features on top of the 90s Emacs to get a reasonable modern editor, and there isn't a system for config snippets that are smaller than a minor mode (aside from copy-pasting from StackOverflow). I've been meaning to try Doom for some time because it seems to be an answer to just that problem.

vvillena 6y ago

Projects like Doom Emacs and Spacemacs are frameworks. They contain lots of well-made, battle-tested code. They are extensible, too: they usually provide clear points for user extensions and customizations.

zeendo 6y ago

I think what you're missing is that Emacs might be a good fit for things other than "the main idea of Emacs" (whatever that is)