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Being an independent contractor is about more than "choosing your own hours". you can be an employee and have flexible hours. You can be a contractor and have f

Being an independent contractor is about more than "choosing your own hours". you can be an employee and have flexible hours. You can be a contractor and have fixed hours. There are plenty of examples of both in the tech industry.

fastball 6y ago
Hmm, maybe I just don't know enough people, but I don't know any employee (with benefits and such) that can just stop working for their company for 12 months with no prior notice, and then pick it back up whenever. And infinite variations on that refrain. I also don't know any employee who gets paid money by the customer to do a job, of which a small portion is taken by the company. For every "employee" I know, it works in exactly the opposite way.
- ClumsyPilot 6y ago
  Uber gets paid, not the driver. The money does not drop directly into the driver's bank account. The driver cannot decide to change his rate or charge extra if the customer pukes in the car. And besides, Getting a cut of your sales and it's called commission. Independence goes much further - can the driver assign someone else to do the job?
  - fastball 6y ago
    Uber collects the payment. But it belongs to the driver. Uber then takes a fraction of it. As with any other marketplace/platform: Amazon, Patreon, App Stores, Twitch, Steam, etc. Stripe collects payments for me when I sell my app. The money does not drop directly into my bank account. And I don't think Uber has any problem with drivers hiring other people to drive their car and do Uber for them. The people that take an issue with that are the municipalities that want to require background checks, etc. for drivers.
    - sudosysgen 6y ago
      Uber doesn't tell the driver how much it's charging the customer, takes an arbitrary cut, and doesn't let you decide of the price, exactly unlike the Apple App store, Amazon, Patreon, and Steam. There are also more reasons why they are employees, but these are material to your claims.
  - saurik 6y ago
    A quick search is showing me a ton of answers on Quora of being emphatically stating that Uber actively allows you to hire people to drive your car for you, as long as you can show they are insured to do so: the money goes to you, to the one parent account, so you get to decide how to pay your subcontractors; supposedly you can even register as a corporation?

fastball 6y ago

Hmm, maybe I just don't know enough people, but I don't know any employee (with benefits and such) that can just stop working for their company for 12 months with no prior notice, and then pick it back up whenever. And infinite variations on that refrain. I also don't know any employee who gets paid money by the customer to do a job, of which a small portion is taken by the company. For every "employee" I know, it works in exactly the opposite way.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago
Uber gets paid, not the driver. The money does not drop directly into the driver's bank account. The driver cannot decide to change his rate or charge extra if the customer pukes in the car. And besides, Getting a cut of your sales and it's called commission. Independence goes much further - can the driver assign someone else to do the job?
- fastball 6y ago
  Uber collects the payment. But it belongs to the driver. Uber then takes a fraction of it. As with any other marketplace/platform: Amazon, Patreon, App Stores, Twitch, Steam, etc. Stripe collects payments for me when I sell my app. The money does not drop directly into my bank account. And I don't think Uber has any problem with drivers hiring other people to drive their car and do Uber for them. The people that take an issue with that are the municipalities that want to require background checks, etc. for drivers.
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    Uber doesn't tell the driver how much it's charging the customer, takes an arbitrary cut, and doesn't let you decide of the price, exactly unlike the Apple App store, Amazon, Patreon, and Steam. There are also more reasons why they are employees, but these are material to your claims.
- saurik 6y ago
  A quick search is showing me a ton of answers on Quora of being emphatically stating that Uber actively allows you to hire people to drive your car for you, as long as you can show they are insured to do so: the money goes to you, to the one parent account, so you get to decide how to pay your subcontractors; supposedly you can even register as a corporation?