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>drivers will no longer be able to choose when they work Why? Uber is still free to let them choose if they choose so. >Going forward people who want to drive

>drivers will no longer be able to choose when they work Why? Uber is still free to let them choose if they choose so. >Going forward people who want to drive for Uber will have to interview like any other job Why? Uber would be free to hire without interview. >this will bring a big improvement in quality of life That's the point. >The rest will be out of a job It was deemed that this kind of a job is not worth having people in, often being below minimum wage and with no protection. In a bit of hyperbole, abolition took jobs from slaves as well.

maxk42 6y ago
To answer your first "Why?" it's because employees have to be paid much more when working over 40 hours / week. Drivers will no longer be able to work an extra 5 hours when they need extra money: They'll have to have a second job. Similarly, there are certain minimum costs associated with each employee above and beyond the costs of a contractor. This may mean Uber is forced to favor drivers who commit to a certain minimum of hours per week, ridding themselves of the "before and after work" driver crowd. The net effect of these two forces means Uber will just be another part-to-full-time job.
- jojobas 6y ago
  Basically you're arguing that the race to the bottoms is good for everyone involved. From a country that has hard fought-for USD16/hour minimum wage, paid 10 sick leave and 20 annual leave days per year, this doesn't appear true at all.
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  - LudwigNagasena 6y ago
    How does allowing flexible work arrangement imply “race to the bottom”?
    - jojobas 6y ago
      Nothing precludes proper employees with flexible arrangements. Forfeiting overtime pay and other labor protections afforded by law are definitely race-to-the-bottomy.
      - LudwigNagasena 6y ago
        Nothing precludes contractors having labor protections either.
seankimdesign 6y ago
What a tasteless and tortured analogy. I'm sure the slaves hated being freed as much as my brother will be when they tell him that he needs to drive X minimum hours a week to keep his employment status with Uber/Lyft. More realistically, there probably won't be an Uber/Lyft left to drive for if this ruling sticks. God knows they're already bleeding funds as we speak. There's no way they'll stay afloat. No matter how you want to spin this, it's not going to be a victory for the majority of the drivers. Let us, in our high and mighty chair, obliterate a burgeoning industry filled with people voluntarily making money on their own time. Let the taxi medallions flow back in its stead. Problem solved - slavery is no more.
- jojobas 6y ago
  Freed Russian serfs were indeed distressed in many cases, which doesn't make their emancipation any less moral. Uber pays less than minimum wage for many, which can't stand.

maxk42 6y ago

To answer your first "Why?" it's because employees have to be paid much more when working over 40 hours / week. Drivers will no longer be able to work an extra 5 hours when they need extra money: They'll have to have a second job. Similarly, there are certain minimum costs associated with each employee above and beyond the costs of a contractor. This may mean Uber is forced to favor drivers who commit to a certain minimum of hours per week, ridding themselves of the "before and after work" driver crowd. The net effect of these two forces means Uber will just be another part-to-full-time job.

jojobas 6y ago
Basically you're arguing that the race to the bottoms is good for everyone involved. From a country that has hard fought-for USD16/hour minimum wage, paid 10 sick leave and 20 annual leave days per year, this doesn't appear true at all.
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- LudwigNagasena 6y ago
  How does allowing flexible work arrangement imply “race to the bottom”?
  - jojobas 6y ago
    Nothing precludes proper employees with flexible arrangements. Forfeiting overtime pay and other labor protections afforded by law are definitely race-to-the-bottomy.
    - LudwigNagasena 6y ago
      Nothing precludes contractors having labor protections either.

seankimdesign 6y ago

What a tasteless and tortured analogy. I'm sure the slaves hated being freed as much as my brother will be when they tell him that he needs to drive X minimum hours a week to keep his employment status with Uber/Lyft. More realistically, there probably won't be an Uber/Lyft left to drive for if this ruling sticks. God knows they're already bleeding funds as we speak. There's no way they'll stay afloat. No matter how you want to spin this, it's not going to be a victory for the majority of the drivers. Let us, in our high and mighty chair, obliterate a burgeoning industry filled with people voluntarily making money on their own time. Let the taxi medallions flow back in its stead. Problem solved - slavery is no more.

jojobas 6y ago
Freed Russian serfs were indeed distressed in many cases, which doesn't make their emancipation any less moral. Uber pays less than minimum wage for many, which can't stand.