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I'm new to US politics, however I'm extremely surprised at how frequently the concept of voter suppression comes up. It seems completely anti-democracy. I've n

by osrec 6y ago

I'm new to US politics, however I'm extremely surprised at how frequently the concept of voter suppression comes up. It seems completely anti-democracy. I've never really come across this phrase in UK politics. If it was to come up, I'm certain it would be met with extreme outrage. Why is it just accepted in the US?!

js2 6y ago
The US has a long history of opposition to democracy. Here's one example: https://www.nps.gov/articles/anti-suffragism-in-the-united-states.htm https://www.nps.gov/articles/anti-suffragism-in-the-united-s... It's been a continuous process since the country's founding to enfranchise all citizens with the right to vote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_St...
theduder99 6y ago
democrats cheat at voting via election fraud. that's why they are against voter ID. republicans want voter ID because it would help prevent election fraud. simple as that.
- jdm2212 6y ago
  AFAIK there are roughly zero documented instances of in-person voter fraud by Democrats over the last 20 years. There are, amusingly, a bunch of documented instances by Republican voters who said they were doing it to offset the (imaginary) Democrats doing it.
- amanaplanacanal 6y ago
  You claim it, but where is the fraud? Didn’t the president have a commission looking into this? Are we still waiting for the results?
  - jimmydorry 6y ago
    I believe several states refused to co-operate, and that was the end of any commission... but don't quote me on that.
dane-pgp 6y ago
> I've never really come across this phrase in UK politics. If it was to come up, I'm certain it would be met with extreme outrage. I've not seen "extreme outrage" to any of these examples: "It could lead to a repeat on the mainland of the Northern Ireland experience where the introduction of individual registration led to a 10% drop in registrations and many eligible voters effectively being disenfranchised."[0] "The government trialled voter ID in some local authorities during the 2018 and 2019 local elections. It was disturbing to see ministers describe it as a “success”: we know that hundreds of people were denied a vote for not having ID. In 2019, according to official figures, more than 700 people were turned away from polling stations across just 10 council areas."[1] "A large software company whose shareholders include Brexiter and former Conservative Cabinet minister Peter Lilley has been given a lucrative contract by the Cabinet Office without competitive tendering to revamp the management of the electoral register in extraordinary circumstances."[2] [0] https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/15/new-voter-registration-rules https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/15/new-voter-r... [1] https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/queens-speech-voter-id-laws-boris-johnson-general-election-conservatives-a9155116.html https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/queens-speech-voter-id-... [2] https://bylinetimes.com/2020/01/07/why-did-cabinet-office-rush-through-procurement-of-controversial-electoral-services-company-idox-just-before-the-general-election/ https://bylinetimes.com/2020/01/07/why-did-cabinet-office-ru...

by osrec 6y ago

js2 6y ago

The US has a long history of opposition to democracy. Here's one example: https://www.nps.gov/articles/anti-suffragism-in-the-united-states.htm https://www.nps.gov/articles/anti-suffragism-in-the-united-s... It's been a continuous process since the country's founding to enfranchise all citizens with the right to vote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_St...

theduder99 6y ago

democrats cheat at voting via election fraud. that's why they are against voter ID. republicans want voter ID because it would help prevent election fraud. simple as that.

jdm2212 6y ago
AFAIK there are roughly zero documented instances of in-person voter fraud by Democrats over the last 20 years. There are, amusingly, a bunch of documented instances by Republican voters who said they were doing it to offset the (imaginary) Democrats doing it.
amanaplanacanal 6y ago
You claim it, but where is the fraud? Didn’t the president have a commission looking into this? Are we still waiting for the results?
- jimmydorry 6y ago
  I believe several states refused to co-operate, and that was the end of any commission... but don't quote me on that.

dane-pgp 6y ago

> I've never really come across this phrase in UK politics. If it was to come up, I'm certain it would be met with extreme outrage. I've not seen "extreme outrage" to any of these examples: "It could lead to a repeat on the mainland of the Northern Ireland experience where the introduction of individual registration led to a 10% drop in registrations and many eligible voters effectively being disenfranchised."[0] "The government trialled voter ID in some local authorities during the 2018 and 2019 local elections. It was disturbing to see ministers describe it as a “success”: we know that hundreds of people were denied a vote for not having ID. In 2019, according to official figures, more than 700 people were turned away from polling stations across just 10 council areas."[1] "A large software company whose shareholders include Brexiter and former Conservative Cabinet minister Peter Lilley has been given a lucrative contract by the Cabinet Office without competitive tendering to revamp the management of the electoral register in extraordinary circumstances."[2] [0] https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/15/new-voter-registration-rules https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/15/new-voter-r... [1] https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/queens-speech-voter-id-laws-boris-johnson-general-election-conservatives-a9155116.html https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/queens-speech-voter-id-... [2] https://bylinetimes.com/2020/01/07/why-did-cabinet-office-rush-through-procurement-of-controversial-electoral-services-company-idox-just-before-the-general-election/ https://bylinetimes.com/2020/01/07/why-did-cabinet-office-ru...