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Regulation, in general, exists primarily as a response to exploitation. If drivers felt they were getting paid equitably, had fair dispute resolution, had acce
by LargeWu 6y ago
Regulation, in general, exists primarily as a response to exploitation.
If drivers felt they were getting paid equitably, had fair dispute resolution, had access to benefits, etc., there wouldn't be a need for this.
- nickff 6y agoThe parent's point brings up the fact that the medallion system wasn't particularly beneficial to all drivers (or riders); medallions are good for medallion-holders, which are usually taxi companies.
- Pfhreak 6y agoHas anyone suggested the solution to this is to make another medallion system? It seems like the OP was putting the cart before the horse.
- marcrosoft 6y agoThe medallion system was regulation at its worst. I’m suggesting we look to our past so we don’t repeat it.
- three_seagrass 6y agoHow is California enforcing it's laws a repeat of a medallion licensing system?
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- nerfhammer 6y agowhy doesn't this happen for truck drivers or traditional taxi drivers, who are also usually contractors?
- xxpor 6y agoFor truckers: a) a class A CDL takes a lot more effort to obtain than a regular driver's licence. there's a much more constrained supply, so you don't end up with a race to the bottom on the demand side as much. b) the quantity of hours truckers can work is set by the federal Department of Transportation. with electronic logging becoming mandatory, that'll cut down even more on people being able to work off the clock. For taxi drivers: you absolutely do end up in this situation. there's just no multi-billion dollar company to make headlines about. medallion owners in NYC are all shady characters too.
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- marcrosoft 6y agoYou’re right except exploitation occurs as crony capitalism. “You rub my back, I’ll make your competition run through red tape”. Nobody is forcing these workers to do ANYTHING. Regulation would force action.
- three_seagrass 6y agoExploitation isn't limited to quid pro quo or antitrust corruption. It's easy to sit from a seat of having a salaried ~40 hour week job with health benefits and safety standards, which were fought for from past generations, and then scoff when similar people are trying to fight for the same.
- marcrosoft 6y agoThere is no exploitation when you literally tap the screen and accept the rate for a given job in real time.
- jcims 6y agoIt’s also easy to sit in that same seat and interfere with an arrangement to satisfy your own moral stance without actually being affected by the outcome. All of these Uber drivers have phones, why are they always absent in these conversations?
- three_seagrass 6y agoMaybe help me understand how having a phone means you're present in a conversation? There have been class action lawsuits filed by uber and lyft drivers.
- jcims 6y agoThis conversation has been going on for years. I rarely see Uber or Lyft drivers participating and when i do they generally just want the company to take a bit less out of the deal, that’s it.
- x3n0ph3n3 6y agoDrivers didn't file this suit -- it was filed entirely be the State of California and local governments