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Hey, let's ignore this one issue that has majority acceptance across political lines and upwards of 70% Democrat approval because I've got a grudge against it.

Hey, let's ignore this one issue that has majority acceptance across political lines and upwards of 70% Democrat approval because I've got a grudge against it. You can do what you want, throwaway account. When you get Matt Gaetz in 2024 let me know how it feels. 4 years of more means testing will get you there real quick.

enraged_camel 6y ago
I agree that M4A should be adopted, but disagree that not adopting it is hurting Biden. He's doing spectacularly in both state polls and national polls. Back in Spring this could have been ignored, but the election is less than 3 months away now and he has managed to not just retain his lead, but increase it. There's no reason to rock that boat now with major policy adoptions, in my opinion. For what it's worth, if Dems manage to gain control of the Senate, then I think President Biden will sign anything that is put in front of him, including an M4A bill. Not doing that would actually cost him the 2024 election.
- ianleeclark 6y ago
  > Not doing that would actually cost him the 2024 election. The man has stated he has no interest in running again afterwards. If we're, for whatever reason, taking what he says as truth, then he doesn't need that. Furthermore, and this is the real important part, the man doesn't base his power upon accountability to the electorate. His base of power showed it's strengrh prior to Super Tuesday. He's riding on the democratic base and whatever reaction there is to Trump, but he's in no way accountable to the electorate.
  - enraged_camel 6y ago
    I don't recall Biden ever making a promise to not seek re-election. I remember him expressing the idea, but mostly within the context of addressing criticisms that he's pretty old. He never committed to it, however. I cannot think of a single President in recent history who actually refused to run for re-election. Can you? Regardless of whether he seeks a second term, I don't think he would sabotage the Democratic Party by refusing to sign an M4A bill, if one is put in front of him.
    - ianleeclark 6y ago
      > I don't think he would sabotage the Democratic Party by refusing to sign an M4A bill, if one is put in front of him. He wouldn't need to, they'd never put one forward. Just like card check.
- umvi 6y ago
  Pretty much everyone knows Biden is senile and that his VP is going to be the real president. So it's a mystery to me why we still don't know who that is mere months before we are supposed to vote.

enraged_camel 6y ago

I agree that M4A should be adopted, but disagree that not adopting it is hurting Biden. He's doing spectacularly in both state polls and national polls. Back in Spring this could have been ignored, but the election is less than 3 months away now and he has managed to not just retain his lead, but increase it. There's no reason to rock that boat now with major policy adoptions, in my opinion. For what it's worth, if Dems manage to gain control of the Senate, then I think President Biden will sign anything that is put in front of him, including an M4A bill. Not doing that would actually cost him the 2024 election.

ianleeclark 6y ago
> Not doing that would actually cost him the 2024 election. The man has stated he has no interest in running again afterwards. If we're, for whatever reason, taking what he says as truth, then he doesn't need that. Furthermore, and this is the real important part, the man doesn't base his power upon accountability to the electorate. His base of power showed it's strengrh prior to Super Tuesday. He's riding on the democratic base and whatever reaction there is to Trump, but he's in no way accountable to the electorate.
- enraged_camel 6y ago
  I don't recall Biden ever making a promise to not seek re-election. I remember him expressing the idea, but mostly within the context of addressing criticisms that he's pretty old. He never committed to it, however. I cannot think of a single President in recent history who actually refused to run for re-election. Can you? Regardless of whether he seeks a second term, I don't think he would sabotage the Democratic Party by refusing to sign an M4A bill, if one is put in front of him.
  - ianleeclark 6y ago
    > I don't think he would sabotage the Democratic Party by refusing to sign an M4A bill, if one is put in front of him. He wouldn't need to, they'd never put one forward. Just like card check.
umvi 6y ago
Pretty much everyone knows Biden is senile and that his VP is going to be the real president. So it's a mystery to me why we still don't know who that is mere months before we are supposed to vote.