3 ms·

This is disgusting. Anybody working at an American firm that's supporting this initiative should be ashamed. Anybody working on this project is actively contrib

by Kapura 6y ago

This is disgusting. Anybody working at an American firm that's supporting this initiative should be ashamed. Anybody working on this project is actively contributing to the destruction of international trust and cooperation. I am beyond disgusted at my government. This Republican administration has been an unprecedented disaster on every front.

waihtis 6y ago
Why do you think it's 'disgusting'? edit: in case someone was confused, talking about the initiative, not the government in general
alyoshaK 6y ago
I would hardly evoke shame on a 9 to 5 worker at a telecommunications corporation for the political decisions made by a CEO or board of directors...
ajkjk 6y ago
Could you explain why?
scohesc 6y ago
How would you suggest we limit the surveillance and active attacks on American infrastructure by the Chinese government? They show no signs of letting up and/or respecting how America works in the slightest.
- DethNinja 6y ago
  Easy, USA can invest in open hardware/software. It would destroy Intel/AMD but who cares, national security is more important, no?
  - tick_tock_tick 6y ago
    Ok that helps the issue in issue in 20-30+ years (develop the tech, start mass production, replace all old hardware with it) what can we do in this decade?
    - DethNinja 6y ago
      That is the government's problem, had they asked me 20 years ago, I would've told them moving all manufacturing operations to China just to enrich a small small percent of people would be disastrous for the nation. Right now I don't care whether China or USA spies, they are identical countries in my mind. Keep in mind that China can still spy on even with this Clean Network.
Shivetya 6y ago
WTF? Did you read beyond five words? Did you just see Trump and go full stupid as so many do? This applies to US Government facilities that use 5G must adhere to the rules put forth, that makes sense. You want your own government to do its best to protect its assets from providers who cannot be trusted. This is not a US only stance. This is the world reacting to a PRC effort to rewrite the ideals of the internet to their own. No one in the Western world trust China much anymore because not only for their own bullying at home but their overt threats to Hong Kong and Taiwan. You can damn well bet they will increase those if they perceive the US administration to be weak or insular which there is a good chance the US will turn inward soon just opening the door
tick_tock_tick 6y ago
Biden is going to be 110% behind this too. I don't have the slightest idea of why you'd think otherwise. People have been playing nice with China for the last few decades hoping they'd change and it hasn't happened maybe a different approach is needed.

by Kapura 6y ago

waihtis 6y ago

Why do you think it's 'disgusting'? edit: in case someone was confused, talking about the initiative, not the government in general

alyoshaK 6y ago

I would hardly evoke shame on a 9 to 5 worker at a telecommunications corporation for the political decisions made by a CEO or board of directors...

ajkjk 6y ago

Could you explain why?

scohesc 6y ago

How would you suggest we limit the surveillance and active attacks on American infrastructure by the Chinese government? They show no signs of letting up and/or respecting how America works in the slightest.

DethNinja 6y ago
Easy, USA can invest in open hardware/software. It would destroy Intel/AMD but who cares, national security is more important, no?
- tick_tock_tick 6y ago
  Ok that helps the issue in issue in 20-30+ years (develop the tech, start mass production, replace all old hardware with it) what can we do in this decade?
  - DethNinja 6y ago
    That is the government's problem, had they asked me 20 years ago, I would've told them moving all manufacturing operations to China just to enrich a small small percent of people would be disastrous for the nation. Right now I don't care whether China or USA spies, they are identical countries in my mind. Keep in mind that China can still spy on even with this Clean Network.

Shivetya 6y ago

WTF? Did you read beyond five words? Did you just see Trump and go full stupid as so many do? This applies to US Government facilities that use 5G must adhere to the rules put forth, that makes sense. You want your own government to do its best to protect its assets from providers who cannot be trusted. This is not a US only stance. This is the world reacting to a PRC effort to rewrite the ideals of the internet to their own. No one in the Western world trust China much anymore because not only for their own bullying at home but their overt threats to Hong Kong and Taiwan. You can damn well bet they will increase those if they perceive the US administration to be weak or insular which there is a good chance the US will turn inward soon just opening the door

tick_tock_tick 6y ago

Biden is going to be 110% behind this too. I don't have the slightest idea of why you'd think otherwise. People have been playing nice with China for the last few decades hoping they'd change and it hasn't happened maybe a different approach is needed.