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https://www.politico.eu/article/huawei-germany-court-case-privacy/ https://www.politico.eu/article/huawei-germany-court-case-pr... Of specific concern is a 201

https://www.politico.eu/article/huawei-germany-court-case-privacy/ https://www.politico.eu/article/huawei-germany-court-case-pr... Of specific concern is a 2017 intelligence law that obliges companies to "support, assist and cooperate with state intelligence services in accordance with the law, and maintain secret all knowledge on the national intelligence services." Another is China's cybersecurity law, which contains similar requirements. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-30/vodafone-found-hidden-backdoors-in-huawei-equipment https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-30/vodafone-... Vodafone asked Huawei to remove backdoors in home internet routers in 2011 and received assurances from the supplier that the issues were fixed, but further testing revealed that the security vulnerabilities remained, the documents show. Vodafone also identified backdoors in parts of its fixed-access network known as optical service nodes, which are responsible for transporting internet traffic over optical fibers, and other parts called broadband network gateways, which handle subscriber authentication and access to the internet, the people said. The people asked not to be identified because the matter was confidential.

luckylion 6y ago
RE the Bloomberg article, be aware that Vodafone rejected Bloomberg's reporting [1]: "The 'backdoor' that Bloomberg refers to is Telnet, which is a protocol that is commonly used by many vendors in the industry for performing diagnostic functions. It would not have been accessible from the internet. "Bloomberg is incorrect in saying that this 'could have given Huawei unauthorised access to the carrier's fixed-line network in Italy'. "In addition, we have no evidence of any unauthorised access. This was nothing more than a failure to remove a diagnostic function after development. "The issues were identified by independent security testing, initiated by Vodafone as part of our routine security measures, and fixed at the time by Huawei." That's a nice way of saying that Bloomberg made up most of the article. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48103430 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48103430
- bassman9000 6y ago
  And the Politico one about the German intelligence findings? Or the fact that Huawei is a de-facto public company, with massive subsidies by the CDB? https://www.rfi.fr/en/contenu/20190530-huawei-key-beneficiary-china-subsidies-us-wants-ended https://www.rfi.fr/en/contenu/20190530-huawei-key-beneficiar... Huawei inked a $10 billion credit line with the China Development Bank (CDB) in 2004 to provide low-cost financing to customers buying its telecom gear. It was tripled to $30 billion in 2009. https://www.wsj.com/articles/state-support-helped-fuel-huaweis-global-rise-11577280736 https://www.wsj.com/articles/state-support-helped-fuel-huawe... And it's funny, because they admit this is normal https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3043558/huawei-says-relationship-chinese-government-no-different-any-other https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3043558/huawei-sa... “Like other tech companies that operate in China, including those from abroad, Huawei receives some policy support from the Chinese government,” Karl Song, vice-president of the company’s corporate communications department, said in a statement. “But we have never received any additional or special treatment.” There's no large corporation in China that got there without financial backing, and board control, from the CCP. Thus, all major Chinese corporations are a extension of the CCP.
  - luckylion 6y ago
    I don't know why you tell me that, I'm not arguing anything, I'm just pointing out that Bloomberg is a bad source because they are making false claims and do not correct them. > Thus, all major Chinese corporations are a extension of the CCP. I believe that to be true. I also believe that to be true for all corporations in all nations. They're independent from the state until it matters.
    - bassman9000 6y ago
      See, that's a false equivalence, as the degree of entanglement between state and corporation matters, as well as how much workers would defy corporate policy aligning the company with the state, for e.g. ethical reasons. I don't buy the cynical well, they're all the same. ByteDance employees attend CCP-indoctrination meetings in the regular. Is that the case for any US corporation? How many of them are lead by former former military, like Huawei? So, no.

luckylion 6y ago

RE the Bloomberg article, be aware that Vodafone rejected Bloomberg's reporting [1]: "The 'backdoor' that Bloomberg refers to is Telnet, which is a protocol that is commonly used by many vendors in the industry for performing diagnostic functions. It would not have been accessible from the internet. "Bloomberg is incorrect in saying that this 'could have given Huawei unauthorised access to the carrier's fixed-line network in Italy'. "In addition, we have no evidence of any unauthorised access. This was nothing more than a failure to remove a diagnostic function after development. "The issues were identified by independent security testing, initiated by Vodafone as part of our routine security measures, and fixed at the time by Huawei." That's a nice way of saying that Bloomberg made up most of the article. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48103430 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48103430

bassman9000 6y ago
And the Politico one about the German intelligence findings? Or the fact that Huawei is a de-facto public company, with massive subsidies by the CDB? https://www.rfi.fr/en/contenu/20190530-huawei-key-beneficiary-china-subsidies-us-wants-ended https://www.rfi.fr/en/contenu/20190530-huawei-key-beneficiar... Huawei inked a $10 billion credit line with the China Development Bank (CDB) in 2004 to provide low-cost financing to customers buying its telecom gear. It was tripled to $30 billion in 2009. https://www.wsj.com/articles/state-support-helped-fuel-huaweis-global-rise-11577280736 https://www.wsj.com/articles/state-support-helped-fuel-huawe... And it's funny, because they admit this is normal https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3043558/huawei-says-relationship-chinese-government-no-different-any-other https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3043558/huawei-sa... “Like other tech companies that operate in China, including those from abroad, Huawei receives some policy support from the Chinese government,” Karl Song, vice-president of the company’s corporate communications department, said in a statement. “But we have never received any additional or special treatment.” There's no large corporation in China that got there without financial backing, and board control, from the CCP. Thus, all major Chinese corporations are a extension of the CCP.
- luckylion 6y ago
  I don't know why you tell me that, I'm not arguing anything, I'm just pointing out that Bloomberg is a bad source because they are making false claims and do not correct them. > Thus, all major Chinese corporations are a extension of the CCP. I believe that to be true. I also believe that to be true for all corporations in all nations. They're independent from the state until it matters.
  - bassman9000 6y ago
    See, that's a false equivalence, as the degree of entanglement between state and corporation matters, as well as how much workers would defy corporate policy aligning the company with the state, for e.g. ethical reasons. I don't buy the cynical well, they're all the same. ByteDance employees attend CCP-indoctrination meetings in the regular. Is that the case for any US corporation? How many of them are lead by former former military, like Huawei? So, no.