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Oh jeez. No good can come from this Balkanization of the net. This is how Russia started its control. Same playbook.
by jamiek88 6y ago
Oh jeez. No good can come from this Balkanization of the net. This is how Russia started its control.
Same playbook.
- wyuenho 6y agoChina has already Balkanized their "Internet" for over 20 years now.
- chillacy 6y agoThat was their loss. If China does something, does the US have to follow? As it is, this just makes it seem like China was right this whole time and the US ideals of an open internet were a failure.
- wyuenho 6y agoThey view it as a success and have double down on it, while the rest of the world continued to feed them knowledge free minds across continents spent centuries to accumulate. In short, they only took the useful bits to strengthen the government's grip on the population while leaving out all those things that made the vast amount of knowledge possible. They are getting all human knowledge for free, while it it not the same for us. Strategically, this position is untenable. The free world is defenseless until we demand reciprocity. Balkanization, be that as it may, it's not the end, but a means to an end, the end should be all open for every one.
- knolax 6y ago> leaving out all those things that made the vast amount of knowledge possible No. This is the conceit of the humanities to attribute the past few centuries of industrial and scientific progress to their work. The Soviets, the Nazis, and the Japanese Empire all managed to progress useful knowledge while believing in completely different ideologies. Your John Lockes and Thomas Paines made no real contribution to the discovery of Penicillin or the Transistor. The idea that censoring ideology will stunt technological growth is a fantasy believed in only by ideologues.
- wyuenho 6y agoI strongly advise you to look into the Needham Question. China could have industrialized a millennium ago, and yet it hadn't until around 50 years ago. Insulating one from knowledge can have tremendous effect on growth for centuries. All Soviets, Nazi and Japanese progress are built on ideas and attitudes first found in Reformation Europe.
- knolax 6y ago> All Soviets, Nazi and Japanese progress are built on ideas and attitudes first found in Reformation Europe. And yet they still managed to adopt all the useful ideas they needed despite heavy political censorship.
- Fordec 6y agoThe solution isn't more added on top. When China is your example of somewhere that is leading the way in doing something on the internet first, it's time to look at yourself long and hard in the mirror.
- asdff 6y agoIsn't it already pretty balkanized? Different countries have different censors and copyright laws. I post a video here in the U.S., it might be legal here but illegal in the EU, or vis versa. And people in Europe enjoy tighter consumer privacy protections than me. And being in CA, I enjoy better protections than other Americans in other states, on the same 'national' internet. The internet has been balkanized for probably 30-40 years, whenever the lawyers first entered the chat. The countries that do highly censor content, like china or russia, censor all forms of media, not just the internet.