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I was thinking as long as there is peace and prosperity for its citizens, then surveillance state is a smaller price to pay for most people. Xi was praised by m

I was thinking as long as there is peace and prosperity for its citizens, then surveillance state is a smaller price to pay for most people. Xi was praised by majority of mainlanders because he lifted the country out of poverty. The thing with China is, it is insanely big. How to govern this big country effectively if not dictatorship? I previously tried to compare Japan and SK to China. But I realized that their culture is drastically different, and SK and Japan is also a much smaller country.

ardy42 6y ago
> Xi was praised by majority of mainlanders because he lifted the country out of poverty. What? Xi took power in 2012, long after the lifting happened. > The thing with China is, it is insanely big. How to govern this big country effectively if not dictatorship? If it's too big to govern except through ruthless means, then maybe that means it's just too big, period. There's no moral imperative that says empires have to remain whole through any means necessary.
spacehunt 6y ago
> Xi was praised by majority of mainlanders because he lifted the country out of poverty. No, CCP is the entity people often attribute China's economic rise to. And even that is not completely correct; Deng opened up the market a bit, and the Chinese people themselves took the opportunity to rebuild the economy from the ruins of central planning. > How to govern this big country effectively if not dictatorship? You can say that about groups of any size. It is often said a benevolent dictator is the most efficient and effective way to run a group: see Linux for an example. But this only works if everyone has shared goals and shared values. What if people have different opinions? Hint: look at how much China spends on "stability maintenance" (维稳) each year: it's bigger than their military budget.

ardy42 6y ago

> Xi was praised by majority of mainlanders because he lifted the country out of poverty. What? Xi took power in 2012, long after the lifting happened. > The thing with China is, it is insanely big. How to govern this big country effectively if not dictatorship? If it's too big to govern except through ruthless means, then maybe that means it's just too big, period. There's no moral imperative that says empires have to remain whole through any means necessary.

spacehunt 6y ago

> Xi was praised by majority of mainlanders because he lifted the country out of poverty. No, CCP is the entity people often attribute China's economic rise to. And even that is not completely correct; Deng opened up the market a bit, and the Chinese people themselves took the opportunity to rebuild the economy from the ruins of central planning. > How to govern this big country effectively if not dictatorship? You can say that about groups of any size. It is often said a benevolent dictator is the most efficient and effective way to run a group: see Linux for an example. But this only works if everyone has shared goals and shared values. What if people have different opinions? Hint: look at how much China spends on "stability maintenance" (维稳) each year: it's bigger than their military budget.