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My thoughts exactly. I don't mean to threadjack, but I'm running a new startup where I'm building augmented reality displays ( http://gothameyewear.com/ http:/

by daeken 16y ago

My thoughts exactly. I don't mean to threadjack, but I'm running a new startup where I'm building augmented reality displays ( http://gothameyewear.com/ http://gothameyewear.com/ if anyone is interested -- haven't posted it here before, simply because there's not much there), and I occasionally have that "well shit, it's the future" realization in working on it. We may not be in the 2011 of Shadowrun, but we'll have decks soon -- they'll be our smartphones.

vetler 16y ago
I've convinced myself that augmented reality displays are right around the corner. Don't we have the technology to to do this now? I suppose the challenge might be to make everything light and compact enough. The future is so close I can smell it.
- daeken 16y ago
  There are two challenges: getting it into a form factor where normal people would wear it (our initial dev units will not be too far off this mark) and getting the price down to something sane. The latter is the really hard part, if you care about quality; the 0.5" 800x600 OLED displays we're using are $800 for a single unit, and don't drop to $400/unit until you hit a volume of 1000+ units. Of course, they'll get cheaper over time, so I'm not terribly worried about it.
  - rl1987 16y ago
    Considering the first, I suppose it's best to try and integrate display into ordinary-looking sunglasses. Some work has been done to develop "covert HMD" like that. [1,2] However, the prototypes don't seem to have solved the problem of inputting vision field video - there is no camera hidden inside the sunglasses as far as I can tell. [1] Steve Mann - Intelligent Image Processing. [2] http://users.cwnet.com/vvortex3/hmd/ http://users.cwnet.com/vvortex3/hmd/
    - daeken 16y ago
      I did a good bit of research into it, but it just doesn't seem to be viable at this point. It's insanely expensive (fiber stuff isn't cheap), and you can't really do AR due to the lack of a camera. Eventually we'll get there, but as of now it's just going to be goggles.
- alanfalcon 16y ago
  The iPhone/Android device as a kind of handheld augmented reality window is very real and available in a great form factor at a great marginal price (assuming you want the rest of the features of the smart phone to begin with). Still, it's not quite the same as being able to go full on Snow Crash gargoyle.
Rhapso 16y ago
I am a college student looking to do research on wearable computers and interface designs for this kind of device. Looking for interns?
- daeken 16y ago
  I'd love to bring on an intern or two, but honestly we're just not there yet. I'm currently funding everything out of pocket, before we seek funding. There will definitely be such opportunities in the (hopefully near!) future, though.
  - Rhapso 16y ago
    Fair enough. :) This fall I am going to be doing a project about integrating a neural interface (Emotive Epoc) with a wearable in hopes of a hands free interface that is easy to use. This is a technology I want to make the concentration of my research, there are a lot of techniques we need to find about how to present data to users effectively in a AR situation and how to choose what data to present from very large data sets (think Google goggles and map overlays as starting points) and I want to make that the focus of my graduate research. This is a bit of Sifi I want to help make real.
    - daeken 16y ago
      Awesome! I spent some time hacking the Epoc last year (which culminated in the Emokit project) and had a lot of fun with it. So much potential there. Good luck with everything.
      - Rhapso 16y ago
        My god, I needed this exact thing rather badly right now. The Emotive Beta Linux SDK is looking hard to work with and does not give access to this kind of data. Thank you for making it!
- alnayyir 16y ago
  This guy has a history of "starting" things and never finishing him. You'd be better off finding someone with a more stable history of finishing what they started. And when I say history, I mean he's into the double digits of "startups" he's initiated.
bootload 16y ago
"... 'm running a new startup where I'm building augmented reality displays ..." Are they as good as or approach EyeTap (Steve Mann)? ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeTap http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeTap
- daeken 16y ago
  The tech in use is derived from Eyetap designs. I've been waiting for someone to bring the tech to market for a decade now and decided not to wait anymore.
  - bootload 16y ago
    "... I've been waiting for someone to bring the tech to market for a decade now and decided not to wait anymore. ..." I wish you the best with this because nobody is commercially doing anything as exciting as Mediated Reality ~ http://eyetap.org/research/eyetap.html http://eyetap.org/research/eyetap.html

by daeken 16y ago

vetler 16y ago

I've convinced myself that augmented reality displays are right around the corner. Don't we have the technology to to do this now? I suppose the challenge might be to make everything light and compact enough. The future is so close I can smell it.

daeken 16y ago
There are two challenges: getting it into a form factor where normal people would wear it (our initial dev units will not be too far off this mark) and getting the price down to something sane. The latter is the really hard part, if you care about quality; the 0.5" 800x600 OLED displays we're using are $800 for a single unit, and don't drop to $400/unit until you hit a volume of 1000+ units. Of course, they'll get cheaper over time, so I'm not terribly worried about it.
- rl1987 16y ago
  Considering the first, I suppose it's best to try and integrate display into ordinary-looking sunglasses. Some work has been done to develop "covert HMD" like that. [1,2] However, the prototypes don't seem to have solved the problem of inputting vision field video - there is no camera hidden inside the sunglasses as far as I can tell. [1] Steve Mann - Intelligent Image Processing. [2] http://users.cwnet.com/vvortex3/hmd/ http://users.cwnet.com/vvortex3/hmd/
  - daeken 16y ago
    I did a good bit of research into it, but it just doesn't seem to be viable at this point. It's insanely expensive (fiber stuff isn't cheap), and you can't really do AR due to the lack of a camera. Eventually we'll get there, but as of now it's just going to be goggles.
alanfalcon 16y ago
The iPhone/Android device as a kind of handheld augmented reality window is very real and available in a great form factor at a great marginal price (assuming you want the rest of the features of the smart phone to begin with). Still, it's not quite the same as being able to go full on Snow Crash gargoyle.

Rhapso 16y ago

I am a college student looking to do research on wearable computers and interface designs for this kind of device. Looking for interns?

daeken 16y ago
I'd love to bring on an intern or two, but honestly we're just not there yet. I'm currently funding everything out of pocket, before we seek funding. There will definitely be such opportunities in the (hopefully near!) future, though.
- Rhapso 16y ago
  Fair enough. :) This fall I am going to be doing a project about integrating a neural interface (Emotive Epoc) with a wearable in hopes of a hands free interface that is easy to use. This is a technology I want to make the concentration of my research, there are a lot of techniques we need to find about how to present data to users effectively in a AR situation and how to choose what data to present from very large data sets (think Google goggles and map overlays as starting points) and I want to make that the focus of my graduate research. This is a bit of Sifi I want to help make real.
  - daeken 16y ago
    Awesome! I spent some time hacking the Epoc last year (which culminated in the Emokit project) and had a lot of fun with it. So much potential there. Good luck with everything.
    - Rhapso 16y ago
      My god, I needed this exact thing rather badly right now. The Emotive Beta Linux SDK is looking hard to work with and does not give access to this kind of data. Thank you for making it!
alnayyir 16y ago
This guy has a history of "starting" things and never finishing him. You'd be better off finding someone with a more stable history of finishing what they started. And when I say history, I mean he's into the double digits of "startups" he's initiated.

bootload 16y ago

"... 'm running a new startup where I'm building augmented reality displays ..." Are they as good as or approach EyeTap (Steve Mann)? ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeTap http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeTap

daeken 16y ago
The tech in use is derived from Eyetap designs. I've been waiting for someone to bring the tech to market for a decade now and decided not to wait anymore.
- bootload 16y ago
  "... I've been waiting for someone to bring the tech to market for a decade now and decided not to wait anymore. ..." I wish you the best with this because nobody is commercially doing anything as exciting as Mediated Reality ~ http://eyetap.org/research/eyetap.html http://eyetap.org/research/eyetap.html