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I find very interesting the fact that Facebook had no problem crushing Vine while massively selling Tiktok ads in exchange for potential business in China.

djohnston 6y ago
is there a source confirming that that was the intention for their selling tiktok ads?
- ohmyblock 6y ago
  Yes https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-china-focus/facebook-defies-china-headwinds-with-new-ad-sales-push-idUSKBN1Z616Q https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-china-focus/face...
pjc50 6y ago
Vine imploded under their own steam and were shut down by Twitter, and FB never had a directly competing product?
- ohmyblock 6y ago
  https://mashable.com/article/mark-zuckerberg-helped-thwart-vine/ https://mashable.com/article/mark-zuckerberg-helped-thwart-v...
  - 40four 6y ago
    From the article: "Facebook didn't kill Vine alone. Leadership issues, increased competition, and monetization struggles all contributed." If an app like vine was as successful as it was made out to be, why would it's fate hinge on being able to access a contact list from another 3rd party app?
balola 6y ago
You probably don't know that Google and FB's ads businesses in China are kinda huge, they never left despite the ban, in fact you can still access a special version of Google Maps, their Analytics and Ads both are fine in China. Chinese apps, games and e-commerce have always been their customers. As for Tiktok, it was spending like crazy on big platforms at the time, and the product didn't seem popular back then, so why not take that sweet money as much as you can.
- yomly 6y ago
  I remember about 1.5 years ago I think 90+% of my youtube ads were TikTok. I thought it was my user demographics as my youtube viewing habits probably skewed towards a low-ish age. But maybe Tiktok were just buying a lot of youtube ads. Probably both
  - balola 6y ago
    I was closely monitoring Twitter reactions to the product at the time, your are not alone, there were plenty of people puzzled by why they were seeing those weird ads everywhere and repeatedly.
- jeffbee 6y ago
  Are you saying that Google et al should not sell advertising services to Chinese companies seeking an international audience?
- baybal2 6y ago
  Yep, Google has a huge office in Foshan (in that hole out of all places..., probably the yet another "new district" deal has oiled the decision)

djohnston 6y ago

is there a source confirming that that was the intention for their selling tiktok ads?

ohmyblock 6y ago
Yes https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-china-focus/facebook-defies-china-headwinds-with-new-ad-sales-push-idUSKBN1Z616Q https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-china-focus/face...

pjc50 6y ago

Vine imploded under their own steam and were shut down by Twitter, and FB never had a directly competing product?

ohmyblock 6y ago
https://mashable.com/article/mark-zuckerberg-helped-thwart-vine/ https://mashable.com/article/mark-zuckerberg-helped-thwart-v...
- 40four 6y ago
  From the article: "Facebook didn't kill Vine alone. Leadership issues, increased competition, and monetization struggles all contributed." If an app like vine was as successful as it was made out to be, why would it's fate hinge on being able to access a contact list from another 3rd party app?

balola 6y ago

You probably don't know that Google and FB's ads businesses in China are kinda huge, they never left despite the ban, in fact you can still access a special version of Google Maps, their Analytics and Ads both are fine in China. Chinese apps, games and e-commerce have always been their customers. As for Tiktok, it was spending like crazy on big platforms at the time, and the product didn't seem popular back then, so why not take that sweet money as much as you can.

yomly 6y ago
I remember about 1.5 years ago I think 90+% of my youtube ads were TikTok. I thought it was my user demographics as my youtube viewing habits probably skewed towards a low-ish age. But maybe Tiktok were just buying a lot of youtube ads. Probably both
- balola 6y ago
  I was closely monitoring Twitter reactions to the product at the time, your are not alone, there were plenty of people puzzled by why they were seeing those weird ads everywhere and repeatedly.
jeffbee 6y ago
Are you saying that Google et al should not sell advertising services to Chinese companies seeking an international audience?
baybal2 6y ago
Yep, Google has a huge office in Foshan (in that hole out of all places..., probably the yet another "new district" deal has oiled the decision)