Also once you learn how to ignore the ethical stuff it tends to repeat. Just like bad coding habits. There is no point wasting energy and time around such peop

Also once you learn how to ignore the ethical stuff it tends to repeat. Just like bad coding habits. There is no point wasting energy and time around such people if they don't share the same values. It's not complicated (requires some networking) to find in any org, the characters who will "do whatever it takes". Then getting them kicked out, opposing them, sidelining them, subverting them, avoiding them are all choices every Engineer has.