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When it comes to politics, HN is similar to Reddit. People just comment by emotion and ideology, because they could feel the satisfaction by chanting the beauti

by fqye 6y ago

When it comes to politics, HN is similar to Reddit. People just comment by emotion and ideology, because they could feel the satisfaction by chanting the beautiful words of democracy and freedom, without burden of insightgul knowledge of history and culture of other people and countries. Some here even wanted to start a war with China in the name of human rights. Remember crusades in the name of Christian? Most people here don't know or don't care if HK was a democracy under UK, and don't care if there is a law to guard the arrest of Jimmy Lai and if ordinary HK people are sick of Ted Cruz etc coming to HK to fan up fire when HK was burning, whom and also other US politicians Jimmy Lai has met with. Edit: For those who don't know, Ted Cruz came over to HK to show his support in Oct. 20019 when HK was burning. And the most despicable was he claimed no riots in HK. That was the moment HK's fate was sealed. https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=4714 https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=4714 https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3032751/ted-cruz-not-just-clueless-cynical-about-hong-kong https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3032751/ted-cru... HK's political movements have no leadership or strategy at all. This kind of acts would turn all Mainland people against them. And CCP would feel empowered to do what ever. My point is the situation in HK is much complicated than beautiful democracy vs evil CCP. It's much more than ideology.

threeseed 6y ago
Last year you posted, "HK protect started peacefully now turned into riot with no clear political purpose". Do you now understand why those riots were important ? Because the National Security laws are being used to crackdown on dissent exactly as the HK protestors predicted.
- fqye 6y ago
  Maybe you got the logic wrong? This arrest is actually an opportunity to test if the new security law has some merits. Jimmy Lai has the resource to defend himself in court. Let's wait for it to unfold.
almost_usual 6y ago
I’m going to get downvoted for saying this but I will. The wealthiest people on the planet who actually influence what governments do prioritize wealth accumulation above nationalism presently. If they didn’t every nation wouldn’t be so in bed with each other at this point. The aggression is a display of power and generate a ‘feeling’ of superiority to keep a population content. There won’t be a war. We’ll only see large scale wars again when our environment collapses and wealth extraction is no longer the number one priority. Having food, water, and other natural resources that were once plenty go scarce will cause war. Perhaps this will never happen but I’m assuming it will. The wealth extraction phase will continue to abuse our planet at peak efficiency until Earth can no longer handle it. Then you will have war.
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by fqye 6y ago

threeseed 6y ago

Last year you posted, "HK protect started peacefully now turned into riot with no clear political purpose". Do you now understand why those riots were important ? Because the National Security laws are being used to crackdown on dissent exactly as the HK protestors predicted.

fqye 6y ago
Maybe you got the logic wrong? This arrest is actually an opportunity to test if the new security law has some merits. Jimmy Lai has the resource to defend himself in court. Let's wait for it to unfold.

almost_usual 6y ago

I’m going to get downvoted for saying this but I will. The wealthiest people on the planet who actually influence what governments do prioritize wealth accumulation above nationalism presently. If they didn’t every nation wouldn’t be so in bed with each other at this point. The aggression is a display of power and generate a ‘feeling’ of superiority to keep a population content. There won’t be a war. We’ll only see large scale wars again when our environment collapses and wealth extraction is no longer the number one priority. Having food, water, and other natural resources that were once plenty go scarce will cause war. Perhaps this will never happen but I’m assuming it will. The wealth extraction phase will continue to abuse our planet at peak efficiency until Earth can no longer handle it. Then you will have war.

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