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Yes, but Jeans are part of the collapse now and considered formal for creatives with Levi's down 62% and doing layoffs. I thought "formality" was bizarre as wel

by kurthr 6y ago

Yes, but Jeans are part of the collapse now and considered formal for creatives with Levi's down 62% and doing layoffs. I thought "formality" was bizarre as well, but apparently their target demo don't consider the older skinny-jeans, and the new high-waisted mom-jeans to be as comfortable as Lulus... who'd have thunk it? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/28/jeans-sales-leggings-pandemic/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/28/jeans-sal... I suspect that it's a long term trend to reduce cost and quality/durability to maintain sales volumes. Fast fashion was a part of this, but now that people aren't going out to be seen, it doesn't matter what you're wearing (if it looks good on zoom). I suspect this will trend back once we're going out more, but with LA/NY/SF/MIA mostly shut down it won't be this year. What is happening for the Oscars, Emmys, Grammys, but home video? Maybe leisure suits will come back?

stevenicr 6y ago
After buying mostly levi's jeans for 30 years I started noticing huge differences in quality / durability.. upon inspecting the waist seams I noticed the 'made in pakistan / mexico' and other labels of origin. The same style/numbers from different years had different fabric thicknesses and were made in various places, and they did not last as long. So I started to question this "American brand". Then they started going all anti-gun / SJW / spending money to reduce gun rights. I have not bought a pair in a long time, won't buy any of that brand for anyone else, and anytime someone I know is shopping for or discussing jeans I mention my distaste for the brand and those who would support them. Seeing them go down sparks joy. I'd rather wear a leisure suit made by snuggies than hand them cash. Seems I'm not the only one. *edit to manual correct seems to seams
- VectorLock 6y ago
  I had a very similar experience with Adidas shoes. For a long time (~15 years maybe) I was pretty much exclusively buying Adidas shell-toes for my daily footwear. They were the most comfortable well fitting shoes and fit my wide feet well. It was nice not having to spend much time looking or trying on shoes - every 2 or even 3 years when they wore out I'd buy a new pair and they fit just like the last one. The last pair I bought fell apart in 3 months, the ball of my foot eating through the interior material in that short span. I kept wondering "what changed" and then I looked at the label in the tongue. Different country of manufacture than the last 2 pairs I bought (I'd usually keep my old pair as a backup since they typically still had some life left in them, despite the sole wearing down)
  - wolco 6y ago
    I always found adidas really bad for wide feet / same as nike. Reebok or Vans are wider.
    - VectorLock 6y ago
      They fit my feet pretty well vs. other brands I've tried. YMMV.
  - stevenicr 6y ago
    Interesting - the past 5 years or so I noticed a similar issue with skechers I had been buying (frequently for more than a decade) - used to be, I could get a couple years out of a pair and retire them to lawn mowing duty from being dingy or worn out.. but the past few years I had a couple pairs bust the seams near the toes in about only 6 months. As much as I liked the styles, I started to try other brands... then went back when some skechers were on sale and bought the 'wide' versions to see if there was a difference. I have really been enjoying the new balance I've been wearing more than any the past couple years.
- matchbok 6y ago
  Sad to see that the nuts think requiring background checks is now "reducing gun rights". Reasonable limits on rights has always been constitutional. Perhaps you should give that document a read. I guess fox news is winning that battle.
  - wayoutthere 6y ago
    Didn't you get the memo? The left is all about the guns now too.
  - Rebelgecko 6y ago
    Levi's donated a million dollars to billionaire Mike Bloomberg, who not surprisingly supports the most heavy-handed and disenfranchising form of background checks imaginable. It's sadly predictable how the wealthiest folks tend to be the ones who support the "reasonable limit" of charging someone hundreds of dollars to practice a constitutional right.
  - tristor 6y ago
    > Reasonable limits on rights has always been constitutional. Citation needed. I don't know how more unambiguous the framers could get than "shall not be infringed". Setting aside my personal feelings on the matter, this just seems to be a bad argument which is not in evidence. I've read the Constitution thoroughly on more than one occasion, I don't see anything within that makes it seems as if the framers thought ignoring what was written in plain English and skirting its intent was a-okay.
    - ric2b 6y ago
      It always strikes me as odd that so many Americans look at the constitution as if it was a holy text from the founding fathers that must be followed and left unchanged, even though they are usually discussing amendments...
      - readarticle 6y ago
        Nobody’s discussing an amendment here, at no point did they suggest it should remain unchanged, and concerns over interpretation apply to any future amendments anyways. Picking up a gun you’ve found from the larger cultural war and shooting random commenters with it is fun, but quite inappropriate for HN from what I’ve seen of it.
- yomly 6y ago
  I am friends with an exec that does textile manufacturing and clothes are manufactured against a "#washes" lifetime. Interestingly, brands like Polo Ralph Lauren have straight to outlet products and their #washes will be a lower number than their high-street equivalent.
purple_ferret 6y ago
I barely buy jeans now because it's hard to find a pair that isn't 10% spandex
- wyclif 6y ago
  Even Levi's is doing it. I was amazed to discover while shopping that they have an entire line of skinny jeans that are part spandex. Whatever happened to practical, well-wearing clothes for gold miners?
  - porker 6y ago
    > Whatever happened to practical, well-wearing clothes for gold miners? They went the same way as the gold miners.
  - coldpie 6y ago
    They're still around. Two MIUSA brands are L.C. King and Round House (I prefer King's styling), and there are probably many more made overseas.
    - wyclif 6y ago
      I love L.C. King but when I checked just now, they don't have a single style of jeans in my size, all they seem to have in stock is larger sizes.
- driverdan 6y ago
  What are you talking about? There are tons of brands that sell 100% cotton denim jeans.

by kurthr 6y ago

stevenicr 6y ago

After buying mostly levi's jeans for 30 years I started noticing huge differences in quality / durability.. upon inspecting the waist seams I noticed the 'made in pakistan / mexico' and other labels of origin. The same style/numbers from different years had different fabric thicknesses and were made in various places, and they did not last as long. So I started to question this "American brand". Then they started going all anti-gun / SJW / spending money to reduce gun rights. I have not bought a pair in a long time, won't buy any of that brand for anyone else, and anytime someone I know is shopping for or discussing jeans I mention my distaste for the brand and those who would support them. Seeing them go down sparks joy. I'd rather wear a leisure suit made by snuggies than hand them cash. Seems I'm not the only one. *edit to manual correct seems to seams

VectorLock 6y ago
I had a very similar experience with Adidas shoes. For a long time (~15 years maybe) I was pretty much exclusively buying Adidas shell-toes for my daily footwear. They were the most comfortable well fitting shoes and fit my wide feet well. It was nice not having to spend much time looking or trying on shoes - every 2 or even 3 years when they wore out I'd buy a new pair and they fit just like the last one. The last pair I bought fell apart in 3 months, the ball of my foot eating through the interior material in that short span. I kept wondering "what changed" and then I looked at the label in the tongue. Different country of manufacture than the last 2 pairs I bought (I'd usually keep my old pair as a backup since they typically still had some life left in them, despite the sole wearing down)
- wolco 6y ago
  I always found adidas really bad for wide feet / same as nike. Reebok or Vans are wider.
  - VectorLock 6y ago
    They fit my feet pretty well vs. other brands I've tried. YMMV.
- stevenicr 6y ago
  Interesting - the past 5 years or so I noticed a similar issue with skechers I had been buying (frequently for more than a decade) - used to be, I could get a couple years out of a pair and retire them to lawn mowing duty from being dingy or worn out.. but the past few years I had a couple pairs bust the seams near the toes in about only 6 months. As much as I liked the styles, I started to try other brands... then went back when some skechers were on sale and bought the 'wide' versions to see if there was a difference. I have really been enjoying the new balance I've been wearing more than any the past couple years.
matchbok 6y ago
Sad to see that the nuts think requiring background checks is now "reducing gun rights". Reasonable limits on rights has always been constitutional. Perhaps you should give that document a read. I guess fox news is winning that battle.
- wayoutthere 6y ago
  Didn't you get the memo? The left is all about the guns now too.
- Rebelgecko 6y ago
  Levi's donated a million dollars to billionaire Mike Bloomberg, who not surprisingly supports the most heavy-handed and disenfranchising form of background checks imaginable. It's sadly predictable how the wealthiest folks tend to be the ones who support the "reasonable limit" of charging someone hundreds of dollars to practice a constitutional right.
- tristor 6y ago
  > Reasonable limits on rights has always been constitutional. Citation needed. I don't know how more unambiguous the framers could get than "shall not be infringed". Setting aside my personal feelings on the matter, this just seems to be a bad argument which is not in evidence. I've read the Constitution thoroughly on more than one occasion, I don't see anything within that makes it seems as if the framers thought ignoring what was written in plain English and skirting its intent was a-okay.
  - ric2b 6y ago
    It always strikes me as odd that so many Americans look at the constitution as if it was a holy text from the founding fathers that must be followed and left unchanged, even though they are usually discussing amendments...
    - readarticle 6y ago
      Nobody’s discussing an amendment here, at no point did they suggest it should remain unchanged, and concerns over interpretation apply to any future amendments anyways. Picking up a gun you’ve found from the larger cultural war and shooting random commenters with it is fun, but quite inappropriate for HN from what I’ve seen of it.
yomly 6y ago
I am friends with an exec that does textile manufacturing and clothes are manufactured against a "#washes" lifetime. Interestingly, brands like Polo Ralph Lauren have straight to outlet products and their #washes will be a lower number than their high-street equivalent.

purple_ferret 6y ago

I barely buy jeans now because it's hard to find a pair that isn't 10% spandex

wyclif 6y ago
Even Levi's is doing it. I was amazed to discover while shopping that they have an entire line of skinny jeans that are part spandex. Whatever happened to practical, well-wearing clothes for gold miners?
- porker 6y ago
  > Whatever happened to practical, well-wearing clothes for gold miners? They went the same way as the gold miners.
- coldpie 6y ago
  They're still around. Two MIUSA brands are L.C. King and Round House (I prefer King's styling), and there are probably many more made overseas.
  - wyclif 6y ago
    I love L.C. King but when I checked just now, they don't have a single style of jeans in my size, all they seem to have in stock is larger sizes.
driverdan 6y ago
What are you talking about? There are tons of brands that sell 100% cotton denim jeans.