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What is the benefit of large scale immigration beyond helping with the low birth rate? Switzerland is a successful economically prosperous country with a strong
by marcinzm 6y ago
What is the benefit of large scale immigration beyond helping with the low birth rate? Switzerland is a successful economically prosperous country with a strong cultural identity.
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- netsharc 6y agoOne of the answers to your question is in your second sentence. A significant part of migration is highly educated people moving to a different country for skilled work. Which benefits the host country because it means their companies get the skilled workers, are more productive, and pay more taxes. (Before someone says "They're taking our jerbs!", in Germany and Switzerland they are desperate for good engineers.) It's even better if they were educated elsewhere, meaning the host countries get these highly educated labor force "for free". On the flip side, it's a brain drain for the exporting countries, of course.
- randompwd 6y agoAlso on the flip side, it hurts labour. A natural limit on a sought after skill means fairer $$$. Any profession which has inbuilt labour limits (chartered accounting/lawyer) means those professions get paid fair market value.
- boomer_joe 6y ago>in Germany and Switzerland they are desperate for good engineers This is absolutely not true. I don't know why anyone would lie so blatantly. Engineering and CS graduates are present in abundance, and the job market is brutal.
- kyawzazaw 6y agoGermany just recently passed a new law (in additional to the easier blue card visa). I suppose it will be mostly used by tech companies. What do you think about that?
- ThePadawan 6y agoWhat part of "Germany and Switzerland" I've lived in a major urban region of Switzerland for the last 12 years and I could not disagree more. I've seen companies looking for capable software engineers for years, including paid relocation and arranging temporary housing for them to move into.
- silicon2401 6y agoThe German job market is brutal for software engineers? How feasible would it be for an American SE to get a job and move to Germany?
- marcinzm 6y agoBrutal != high salaries. I know someone who got triple the salary when moving from Germany to the US without even trying that hard (FAANG would have been something like 6-8x the salary).
- netsharc 6y agoThanks for accusing me of lying. Got any statistics to prove me wrong? I suppose I should also do research to prove what I believe to be right, but from the amount of headhunters contacting me on LinkedIn, my gut feeling is I'm not wrong... BTW an abundance of graduates don't always equal "good engineers". There is also an abundance of mediocre engineers.
- marcinzm 6y ago>Which benefits the host country because it means their companies get the skilled workers, are more productive, and pay more taxes. If a country already has a high per capita GDP why does it need more money? What do the people in the country gain from more money in total? More labor generally lowers how much workers are paid so each person in the country is likely to get less money afterwards. More productive workers means more workaholic workers which again moves the bar so locals are now expected to work more as well. Again, a net loss for the existing population.
- romanoderoma 6y ago> Switzerland is a successful economically prosperous country with a strong cultural identity. Who is also countinously looking for people going to work there. I got a call for a remote job for a U.N. agency two weeks ago. They are calling it immigration, but it's more people going there for tax benefits or because have been called there or because the U.N. and many Financial or Legal HQ offices are there.