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This is slightly tangential but if you are moving and fiber internet is an important consideration for you then check out this tool I made to check fiber connec

This is slightly tangential but if you are moving and fiber internet is an important consideration for you then check out this tool I made to check fiber connectivity in bulk: https://gigahood.com/ https://gigahood.com/ It also checks within 500 ft of the address. You may be able to trench a fiber line out yourself at that distance.

ancarda 6y ago
Is this US only? I got "This address is invalid". I live in the UK at the moment. Would be good to know a bit more about this tool. I'd love to get FTTP!
- gnfargbl 6y ago
  You might find https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/ https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/ helpful. If you want to check an address and don’t know the phone number, use https://www.findmyaddress.co.uk/search https://www.findmyaddress.co.uk/search to get the UPRN for the address and paste that into the BT tool. I’d also love FTTP, but the state of affairs in the UK seems really disappointing at the moment. If you run a business and live in a rural area then the Government will contribute £3500 to the cost of an FTTP-on-Demand build. Unfortunately, Openreach’s engineering costs are so ludicrous that (in my experience) it’s still not a realistic prospect.
  - wdb 6y ago
    The UK lives in the dark ages regarding Internet. In Switzerland I already had 150mbit internet (in 2010+) while when I moved to London I couldn't even get more than 16mbit while living in Zone 1. Still these days I can't get that speed.
    - secondcoming 6y ago
      Weird, I get 100MB consistently not far from zone 1. You may live far from the exchange
      - tomfanning 6y ago
        Or, ironically, too close to the exchange. https://www.choose.co.uk/guide/exchange-only-line-fibre-broadband.html https://www.choose.co.uk/guide/exchange-only-line-fibre-broa...
      - wdb 6y ago
        I live near Hyde Park ️
      - lostlogin 6y ago
        OP was getting that in 2010 elsewhere - it’s fairly amazing that London isn’t getting multiples of that now.
    - Nextgrid 6y ago
      It doesn't help that the UK (and some other countries) have corrupted the definition of fiber by allowing pretty much everything to be called fiber. DSL (running on the shitty, rusty phone lines) is allowed to be sold as fiber because fiber is involved at some point in the transmission (up to the DSLAM). By that standard, even 56k dial-up could be called fiber because there would be fiber somewhere in the datacenter on the other end. HFC (Virgin Media cable) is also called fiber even though it's fiber to a certain point and then you're sharing a coax loop with dozens or even hundreds of people. It's even worse because the shared bandwidth can be saturated and the connection becomes unusable because of packet loss (could technically happen with DSL if the exchange's uplink saturates, but I've never seen it happen compared to cable networks). There's also a naming convention of "superfast", "ultrafast", etc which creates more confusion. If you want to express speeds, how about you just quote the raw numbers?
      - wdb 6y ago
        Yeah, if you live in a new building or further out of Central you can get things like g.network or Hyperoptic but even aa new apartment block build by Westminster council doesn't offer fiber. Maybe this all will change when there is more Working From Home to be happening the coming years.
      - gnfargbl 6y ago
        Definitely agree. Only a small percentage of the general public here seem to understand the difference between FTTC (which is what we have) and FTTP/FTTH (which is what we need). Perhaps if they did then the Gov would have to work harder on FTTP delivery.
  - ancarda 6y ago
    Thanks for the link. As I suspected, I can only get FTTC (80/20). FTTPoD is available but ... as you mentioned it's not exactly the best option. Going by https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband - I see "Good news – we'll be upgrading your area to Full Fibre (Fibre to the Premises - FTTP) soon." Anyone know how soon "soon" is?
    - maccard 6y ago
      Anecdotal but mine was about 6 months.
  - maccard 6y ago
    Can you elaborate on OR's engineering being ludicrous? I've found them to be quite helpful, and their costs to be roughly in line with the costs I would expect from other trades!
    - gambiting 6y ago
      Well, the cost can be both reasonable compared to other market rates and yet ridiculous. I know someone who got a quote recently to connect their rural property to fibre, literally about 100 metres from the cabinet, like, not far at all. But because they had to dig through a road and lay the cable over a small stream they quoted about £60k for the job. That might be "in line with the market" but it's still a ridiculous amount, there's no way a normal homeowner can afford that.
      - maccard 6y ago
        Right but that's not openreach's fault, that's because they need to dig up a road and go under a stream. Get a quote for a mains gas connection or an electrical connection and you'll find it in the same ballpark.
        gambiting 6y ago
        Well, so for electrical work I know that Northern Grid will do any reasonable upgrades for your network for free, just because that's part of what they exist to do. I asked for an upgrade to 100amp connection to my house, they did a survey and answered that they would need to dig out the whole cable from my house to the street and replace it with a new one. "Of course" - they said - "we would put everything back at is was once we're done". Cost? Absolutely free. Well, funded by the taxpayer I guess. I don't see why openreach shouldn't be the same - if your house isn't on the fibre network, they should connect you as that's literally their mission statement. I guess for really complicated cases the cost could be shared or something, but quoting people 50k for connecting a domestic property to fibre shouldn't be acceptable.
        maccard 6y ago
- yshrestha 6y ago
  Unfortunately, I am using the FCC form 477 data which is only valid in the US. Do you know of a similar dateset in the UK?
kelchm 6y ago
Can you share more details on the data source for this? Seems highly inaccurate for the somewhat rural addresses I’ve checked in Pennsylvania.
- yshrestha 6y ago
  Sure thing. I am using the FCC form 477 data. Unfortunately it relies on ISPs self reporting their coverage data so it may not be fully up to date.
  - iptrans 6y ago
    477 data is renowned for being wildly inaccurate. You can find whole articles about how terrible it is, never mind out of date.
    - EsotericAlgo 6y ago
      Indeed. I wasn't able to verify more granular data doesn't exist but 477 data is at the census block level so I wouldn't expect this to provide anything different from https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/ https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/
      - yshrestha 6y ago
        Yes. It is a more convenient way to search addresses in bulk. Also makes it easier to identify possible speeds within 500 feet. This is actually how I found my acreage homestead.
devadvance 6y ago
Wish I had known about this months ago! Any more info you can share on data, plans, etc.?
- yshrestha 6y ago
  I will have to check to see what the FCC provides. Are you interested in any data in particular?
  - devadvance 6y ago
    Two kinds of data may be interesting: 1) where fiber may be run but not offered for residential service. E.g., future offerings. 2) where business fiber is offered. This would cover the dedicated internet (DIA) option.
    - iptrans 6y ago
      This data is usually proprietary and/or behind a broker/vendor/carrier/paywall. You can get some of it from Fiberlocator. Subscriptions to their service is $3,800 per year.
      - ethbro 6y ago
        Group buy? I feel like finding 20 people who know how to use a VPN and are trustworthy would be feasible.
Youden 6y ago
If you're in Switzerland like the OP, the Swiss government has comprehensive maps of fiber coverage [0] as well as the speed you can attain [1] (there are more breakdowns, check Geocatalog > Population and Economy > Communication. Even better, you can download the maps and load them into GIS software. I grab listings from real-estate portals then load them into QGIS, where I intersect them with zoning maps, fiber coverage, noise maps and public transit isochrones. I can then filter them at will. [0]: https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=ech&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.bakom.anschlussart-glasfaser&layers_opacity=0.75 https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=ech&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swiss... [1]: https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=ech&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.bakom.downlink1000&layers_opacity=0.75 https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=ech&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swiss...
- andreasley 6y ago
  Unfortunately, these maps are neither complete nor very accurate. For example, smaller ISPs and networks (like LiteXchange) are usually not included. :(
dawnerd 6y ago
Nice tool but at least in my area it’s wildly inaccurate. (I know it’s not your fault)
gravypod 6y ago
Is there any service that will monitor MLS/others and look for houses and apartments in a price range, within a commute distance (by train or car or bus), and with internet access? I think I'd pay for a service that did this.
- paulie_a 6y ago
  That wi be highly dependent on the MLS available in your area. There is no universal or standard MLS and the information collected can vary wildly between cities and counties. Monitoring that checkbox if available would require access to an rss feed for the listings. Or potentially a realtor to set up an email alert (no contract would be required)
- zo1 6y ago
  I would build that - but I have a feeling that the realty companies would prevent and/or fight you for scraping their data. Anyone have experience with that that can offer some info/advice?
  - SpikedCola 6y ago
    I've scraped MLS for personal use to build a very similar tool (draw on a map, highlight new listings, able to hide listings), and had no technical issues at all, just a simple curl call. This was a few years ago, though.
agentdrtran 6y ago
I checked this site for my own address and it's wrong, unfortuantely.
icelancer 6y ago
This (and other aggregator websites) are consistently wrong for my address. Shows CenturyLink with 1000/1000 available, check CenturyLink's site, 15/10 max (lol). Not sure where they pull their data from but it seems quite inaccurate. Max CLink has offered me for over a decade is 15mbps down.
- yshrestha 6y ago
  Indeed. The data is only on a census block level and could have false positives and negatives. Unfortunately, the data is not more granular than the census block level.
- tinus_hn 6y ago
  Is that a fiber offering? Why would it be that slow?
  - icelancer 6y ago
    ADSL. No fiber to my home.
j45 6y ago
Doesn't seem to work with addresses outside of the US
iknowstuff 6y ago
This is excellent! All the other ISP-finding websites are ad-ridden inaccurate trash. Edit: yuge suggestion: make the results linkable. I wanted to share them with friends and had to make a screenshot, so you're missing out on visits.
- yshrestha 6y ago
  Thank you for the suggestion! I actually used the tool myself for my own house hunt. I disliked all the tools out there for the reason you mentioned. I will write an article about my journey in the future.
johncalvinyoung 6y ago
Yeah, not remotely accurate for me. I'm typing this on consumer/residental symmetric gigabit fiber (albeit a bit oversubscribed on the downlink side, but I still get hundreds of megabits both directions). Not listed in the results table.
- yshrestha 6y ago
  Bummer. Admittedly, it is working off of incomplete and possibly old data. The data requires ISPs to self report.
thecodefoundry 6y ago
I'm currently looking into homesteading on acreage and your site is extremely valuable in that search. Thank you!
- iptrans 6y ago
  You are likely to be very disappointed if you rely on that data. You may even be disappointed if a carrier promises service at a location, since some ISPs have been known to renege on offers at a later date. The only way to be sure of service availability is to order service and have somebody turn up and actually install service. The only thing the FCC data will tell you is that service ISN’T available at a certain location.
  - yshrestha 6y ago
    It certainly does require you to verify coverage. However, it is a good heuristic to see if you are in the right spot. For my area in Denver it has been quite accurate. I recently found a 5 acre homestead property with fiber next door. I ended up trenching a line myself and I have gigabit speeds!
kitteh 6y ago
The best way I've find out if you're "on net" (have fiber going to your bldg or near it) is to befriend someone in the networking and telecom space who hoard KMZs files that map out what's installed (each telecom develops them and shares them internally and sometimes with customers). I know of folks who treat these like gold and carry them from job to job and have most of the US and other nations covered. These are the folks I call when I need an address lit up to see which options and which carrier is out there vs. contacting one who is going to try to work it thru them. Most metro areas if you're on net you can get dark fiber for a flat monthly fee. Construction and permitting will bring an additional cost and things are delayed quite a bit with covid. I've known a few folks who've got their own dark (or point to point wireless) to colos in downtown areas where they and their friends will rent half a rack or less to drop in a router and buy cheap transit and become their own little ISP.
- thrtythreeforty 6y ago
  How does one find these people? They sound like an awesome resource to know.
Legogris 6y ago
Maybe add a note on the page which regions/country this is intended for (assuming US only?)
EgoIncarnate 6y ago
Not accurate for me. Claims I should be able to get 1gig fiber from AT&T but AT&T site says 25mbs max
mmerlin 6y ago
For Australia, to check if FTTP is possible (without spending five figures to connect) look for the purple dots here: http://nbnmtm.australiaeast.cloudapp.azure.com/nbnmtm.html http://nbnmtm.australiaeast.cloudapp.azure.com/nbnmtm.html Unofficial, maintained for years by some awesome guy. Govt refuses to share. If you are lucky enough to move house, right next to a purple dot you can save $many $thousands getting FTTP because your neighbour has already paid for it, and houses nearby that want FTTP will still be up for a few grand but not ten grand plus, like your neighbour already paid. Sucks that Abbott the onion muncher lied and spent $10 billion more on copper (than fibre would have cost) plus took 4 years longer than promised to deliver slow copper MTM NBN because he blocked the just-begun original FTTP NBN rollout (with lackey Turncoat effectively spruiking that nobody will ever need more than 25Mbps) Except they are politicians and we have the "The Game Of Mates" FTTP would have devalued Murdoch's 25 year old Foxtel copper that we are partially using for slow NBN that drops out when it rains. Would love to see Abbott and Turncoat fully ICACked for their plethora of dodgy favours to donor mates, detrimental to everyone (except them and their donors). Don't even get me started on Pyne (the fixer) and his $200Bn diesel MTM submarines.
bonestamp2 6y ago
Thanks, great tool! It gave me the same results that I found with a lot of manual research so it's definitely accurate. It's even more accurate than one of the ISP's own websites (I've confirmed multiple times with them that their website is wrong and your tool is showing the right info).

ancarda 6y ago

Is this US only? I got "This address is invalid". I live in the UK at the moment. Would be good to know a bit more about this tool. I'd love to get FTTP!

gnfargbl 6y ago
You might find https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/ https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/ helpful. If you want to check an address and don’t know the phone number, use https://www.findmyaddress.co.uk/search https://www.findmyaddress.co.uk/search to get the UPRN for the address and paste that into the BT tool. I’d also love FTTP, but the state of affairs in the UK seems really disappointing at the moment. If you run a business and live in a rural area then the Government will contribute £3500 to the cost of an FTTP-on-Demand build. Unfortunately, Openreach’s engineering costs are so ludicrous that (in my experience) it’s still not a realistic prospect.
- wdb 6y ago
  The UK lives in the dark ages regarding Internet. In Switzerland I already had 150mbit internet (in 2010+) while when I moved to London I couldn't even get more than 16mbit while living in Zone 1. Still these days I can't get that speed.
  - secondcoming 6y ago
    Weird, I get 100MB consistently not far from zone 1. You may live far from the exchange
    - tomfanning 6y ago
      Or, ironically, too close to the exchange. https://www.choose.co.uk/guide/exchange-only-line-fibre-broadband.html https://www.choose.co.uk/guide/exchange-only-line-fibre-broa...
    - wdb 6y ago
      I live near Hyde Park ️
    - lostlogin 6y ago
      OP was getting that in 2010 elsewhere - it’s fairly amazing that London isn’t getting multiples of that now.
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    It doesn't help that the UK (and some other countries) have corrupted the definition of fiber by allowing pretty much everything to be called fiber. DSL (running on the shitty, rusty phone lines) is allowed to be sold as fiber because fiber is involved at some point in the transmission (up to the DSLAM). By that standard, even 56k dial-up could be called fiber because there would be fiber somewhere in the datacenter on the other end. HFC (Virgin Media cable) is also called fiber even though it's fiber to a certain point and then you're sharing a coax loop with dozens or even hundreds of people. It's even worse because the shared bandwidth can be saturated and the connection becomes unusable because of packet loss (could technically happen with DSL if the exchange's uplink saturates, but I've never seen it happen compared to cable networks). There's also a naming convention of "superfast", "ultrafast", etc which creates more confusion. If you want to express speeds, how about you just quote the raw numbers?
    - wdb 6y ago
      Yeah, if you live in a new building or further out of Central you can get things like g.network or Hyperoptic but even aa new apartment block build by Westminster council doesn't offer fiber. Maybe this all will change when there is more Working From Home to be happening the coming years.
    - gnfargbl 6y ago
      Definitely agree. Only a small percentage of the general public here seem to understand the difference between FTTC (which is what we have) and FTTP/FTTH (which is what we need). Perhaps if they did then the Gov would have to work harder on FTTP delivery.
- ancarda 6y ago
  Thanks for the link. As I suspected, I can only get FTTC (80/20). FTTPoD is available but ... as you mentioned it's not exactly the best option. Going by https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband - I see "Good news – we'll be upgrading your area to Full Fibre (Fibre to the Premises - FTTP) soon." Anyone know how soon "soon" is?
  - maccard 6y ago
    Anecdotal but mine was about 6 months.
- maccard 6y ago
  Can you elaborate on OR's engineering being ludicrous? I've found them to be quite helpful, and their costs to be roughly in line with the costs I would expect from other trades!
  - gambiting 6y ago
    Well, the cost can be both reasonable compared to other market rates and yet ridiculous. I know someone who got a quote recently to connect their rural property to fibre, literally about 100 metres from the cabinet, like, not far at all. But because they had to dig through a road and lay the cable over a small stream they quoted about £60k for the job. That might be "in line with the market" but it's still a ridiculous amount, there's no way a normal homeowner can afford that.
    - maccard 6y ago
      Right but that's not openreach's fault, that's because they need to dig up a road and go under a stream. Get a quote for a mains gas connection or an electrical connection and you'll find it in the same ballpark.
      - gambiting 6y ago
        Well, so for electrical work I know that Northern Grid will do any reasonable upgrades for your network for free, just because that's part of what they exist to do. I asked for an upgrade to 100amp connection to my house, they did a survey and answered that they would need to dig out the whole cable from my house to the street and replace it with a new one. "Of course" - they said - "we would put everything back at is was once we're done". Cost? Absolutely free. Well, funded by the taxpayer I guess. I don't see why openreach shouldn't be the same - if your house isn't on the fibre network, they should connect you as that's literally their mission statement. I guess for really complicated cases the cost could be shared or something, but quoting people 50k for connecting a domestic property to fibre shouldn't be acceptable.
        maccard 6y ago
yshrestha 6y ago
Unfortunately, I am using the FCC form 477 data which is only valid in the US. Do you know of a similar dateset in the UK?

kelchm 6y ago

Can you share more details on the data source for this? Seems highly inaccurate for the somewhat rural addresses I’ve checked in Pennsylvania.

yshrestha 6y ago
Sure thing. I am using the FCC form 477 data. Unfortunately it relies on ISPs self reporting their coverage data so it may not be fully up to date.
- iptrans 6y ago
  477 data is renowned for being wildly inaccurate. You can find whole articles about how terrible it is, never mind out of date.
  - EsotericAlgo 6y ago
    Indeed. I wasn't able to verify more granular data doesn't exist but 477 data is at the census block level so I wouldn't expect this to provide anything different from https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/ https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/
    - yshrestha 6y ago
      Yes. It is a more convenient way to search addresses in bulk. Also makes it easier to identify possible speeds within 500 feet. This is actually how I found my acreage homestead.

devadvance 6y ago

Wish I had known about this months ago! Any more info you can share on data, plans, etc.?

yshrestha 6y ago
I will have to check to see what the FCC provides. Are you interested in any data in particular?
- devadvance 6y ago
  Two kinds of data may be interesting: 1) where fiber may be run but not offered for residential service. E.g., future offerings. 2) where business fiber is offered. This would cover the dedicated internet (DIA) option.
  - iptrans 6y ago
    This data is usually proprietary and/or behind a broker/vendor/carrier/paywall. You can get some of it from Fiberlocator. Subscriptions to their service is $3,800 per year.
    - ethbro 6y ago
      Group buy? I feel like finding 20 people who know how to use a VPN and are trustworthy would be feasible.

Youden 6y ago

If you're in Switzerland like the OP, the Swiss government has comprehensive maps of fiber coverage [0] as well as the speed you can attain [1] (there are more breakdowns, check Geocatalog > Population and Economy > Communication. Even better, you can download the maps and load them into GIS software. I grab listings from real-estate portals then load them into QGIS, where I intersect them with zoning maps, fiber coverage, noise maps and public transit isochrones. I can then filter them at will. [0]: https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=ech&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.bakom.anschlussart-glasfaser&layers_opacity=0.75 https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=ech&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swiss... [1]: https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=ech&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.bakom.downlink1000&layers_opacity=0.75 https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=ech&lang=en&bgLayer=ch.swiss...

andreasley 6y ago
Unfortunately, these maps are neither complete nor very accurate. For example, smaller ISPs and networks (like LiteXchange) are usually not included. :(

dawnerd 6y ago

Nice tool but at least in my area it’s wildly inaccurate. (I know it’s not your fault)

gravypod 6y ago

Is there any service that will monitor MLS/others and look for houses and apartments in a price range, within a commute distance (by train or car or bus), and with internet access? I think I'd pay for a service that did this.

paulie_a 6y ago
That wi be highly dependent on the MLS available in your area. There is no universal or standard MLS and the information collected can vary wildly between cities and counties. Monitoring that checkbox if available would require access to an rss feed for the listings. Or potentially a realtor to set up an email alert (no contract would be required)
zo1 6y ago
I would build that - but I have a feeling that the realty companies would prevent and/or fight you for scraping their data. Anyone have experience with that that can offer some info/advice?
- SpikedCola 6y ago
  I've scraped MLS for personal use to build a very similar tool (draw on a map, highlight new listings, able to hide listings), and had no technical issues at all, just a simple curl call. This was a few years ago, though.

agentdrtran 6y ago

I checked this site for my own address and it's wrong, unfortuantely.

icelancer 6y ago

This (and other aggregator websites) are consistently wrong for my address. Shows CenturyLink with 1000/1000 available, check CenturyLink's site, 15/10 max (lol). Not sure where they pull their data from but it seems quite inaccurate. Max CLink has offered me for over a decade is 15mbps down.

yshrestha 6y ago
Indeed. The data is only on a census block level and could have false positives and negatives. Unfortunately, the data is not more granular than the census block level.
tinus_hn 6y ago
Is that a fiber offering? Why would it be that slow?
- icelancer 6y ago
  ADSL. No fiber to my home.

j45 6y ago

Doesn't seem to work with addresses outside of the US

iknowstuff 6y ago

This is excellent! All the other ISP-finding websites are ad-ridden inaccurate trash. Edit: yuge suggestion: make the results linkable. I wanted to share them with friends and had to make a screenshot, so you're missing out on visits.

yshrestha 6y ago
Thank you for the suggestion! I actually used the tool myself for my own house hunt. I disliked all the tools out there for the reason you mentioned. I will write an article about my journey in the future.

johncalvinyoung 6y ago

Yeah, not remotely accurate for me. I'm typing this on consumer/residental symmetric gigabit fiber (albeit a bit oversubscribed on the downlink side, but I still get hundreds of megabits both directions). Not listed in the results table.

yshrestha 6y ago
Bummer. Admittedly, it is working off of incomplete and possibly old data. The data requires ISPs to self report.

thecodefoundry 6y ago

I'm currently looking into homesteading on acreage and your site is extremely valuable in that search. Thank you!

iptrans 6y ago
You are likely to be very disappointed if you rely on that data. You may even be disappointed if a carrier promises service at a location, since some ISPs have been known to renege on offers at a later date. The only way to be sure of service availability is to order service and have somebody turn up and actually install service. The only thing the FCC data will tell you is that service ISN’T available at a certain location.
- yshrestha 6y ago
  It certainly does require you to verify coverage. However, it is a good heuristic to see if you are in the right spot. For my area in Denver it has been quite accurate. I recently found a 5 acre homestead property with fiber next door. I ended up trenching a line myself and I have gigabit speeds!

kitteh 6y ago

The best way I've find out if you're "on net" (have fiber going to your bldg or near it) is to befriend someone in the networking and telecom space who hoard KMZs files that map out what's installed (each telecom develops them and shares them internally and sometimes with customers). I know of folks who treat these like gold and carry them from job to job and have most of the US and other nations covered. These are the folks I call when I need an address lit up to see which options and which carrier is out there vs. contacting one who is going to try to work it thru them. Most metro areas if you're on net you can get dark fiber for a flat monthly fee. Construction and permitting will bring an additional cost and things are delayed quite a bit with covid. I've known a few folks who've got their own dark (or point to point wireless) to colos in downtown areas where they and their friends will rent half a rack or less to drop in a router and buy cheap transit and become their own little ISP.

thrtythreeforty 6y ago
How does one find these people? They sound like an awesome resource to know.

Legogris 6y ago

Maybe add a note on the page which regions/country this is intended for (assuming US only?)

EgoIncarnate 6y ago

Not accurate for me. Claims I should be able to get 1gig fiber from AT&T but AT&T site says 25mbs max

mmerlin 6y ago

For Australia, to check if FTTP is possible (without spending five figures to connect) look for the purple dots here: http://nbnmtm.australiaeast.cloudapp.azure.com/nbnmtm.html http://nbnmtm.australiaeast.cloudapp.azure.com/nbnmtm.html Unofficial, maintained for years by some awesome guy. Govt refuses to share. If you are lucky enough to move house, right next to a purple dot you can save $many $thousands getting FTTP because your neighbour has already paid for it, and houses nearby that want FTTP will still be up for a few grand but not ten grand plus, like your neighbour already paid. Sucks that Abbott the onion muncher lied and spent $10 billion more on copper (than fibre would have cost) plus took 4 years longer than promised to deliver slow copper MTM NBN because he blocked the just-begun original FTTP NBN rollout (with lackey Turncoat effectively spruiking that nobody will ever need more than 25Mbps) Except they are politicians and we have the "The Game Of Mates" FTTP would have devalued Murdoch's 25 year old Foxtel copper that we are partially using for slow NBN that drops out when it rains. Would love to see Abbott and Turncoat fully ICACked for their plethora of dodgy favours to donor mates, detrimental to everyone (except them and their donors). Don't even get me started on Pyne (the fixer) and his $200Bn diesel MTM submarines.

bonestamp2 6y ago

Thanks, great tool! It gave me the same results that I found with a lot of manual research so it's definitely accurate. It's even more accurate than one of the ISP's own websites (I've confirmed multiple times with them that their website is wrong and your tool is showing the right info).