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One situation where I've found it invaluable recently is Zoom standups. I like to see everyone at the same time rather than let Zoom decide who I want to look a
by rozab 6y ago
One situation where I've found it invaluable recently is Zoom standups. I like to see everyone at the same time rather than let Zoom decide who I want to look at, and our kanban board has 7 (!) columns. Of course I could just switch between these things, but you don't really notice the cognitive load that causes until it's gone (and I do use a nice tiling WM setup)
- elliekelly 6y agoI’m saddened that so many morning standups have transitioned to video instead of quietly dying off.
- tra3 6y agoAre you saying you don’t like the format, don’t find the meetings valuable, or both?
- smoe 6y agoNot GP, but my impression is a bit, that the better things are going, the more farcical stand ups can become. The status update aspect of it could be automatized from the task management tooling, people reach out for help/input as needed and don't wait for the next stand up, socialize outside of these allocated slots, etc. With every recurring meeting no matter the frequency you have to be quite careful in my opinion and constantly re-evaluate and tweak to keep it useful most of the time, instead it being a dogmatic ritual that has to be done a specific way because somebody learned it as such from an "Agile" book, certificate, course, video.
- ysavir 6y ago> The status update aspect of it could be automatized from the task management tooling, people reach out for help/input as needed and don't wait for the next stand up, socialize outside of these allocated slots, etc. People rarely understand the point of agile and, specifically, standups. Using it as a daily check in, especially as status updates, is contrary to agile's intentions. The real purpose is to make sure that people on the team frequently expose problems. If people are already doing that consistently, then standup as a practice is fairly moot.
- smoe 6y agoFor me standup meetings are not a part of agile. The latter is more of a minset, how you go on about things. Everything else, standups, scrum boards, epics, story points, squads, retros etc. are just tools that might or might not be useful for a team. You can be agile without them, and you can not be agile with the entire array of buzzwords. I think there is an useful status update component to standups. Not to your boss, to have a shared view among the team what the state of the product is. But this has to be aligned with how fast to product is meaningfully changing. Some times this might indeed be daily, but otherwise it quickly becomes just noise. Of course some managers think the product has to or can meaningfully change every day. I agree, that if you do them you should make them about exposing problems.
- therealdrag0 6y agoYa the only value I don’t totally discount in them is the forced socialization. It’s sorta like eating dinner together as a family. As a kid you might not want to participate but at the end of the day there is value in that cohesion. And if it’s not scheduled it’ll not happen much, or it’ll happen among cliques.
- alasdair_ 6y agoWe switched to asynchronous standups that just involve writing a short post stating what we did yesterday, what we are doing today and any questions/blockers we have. Everyone seems to prefer it. They don't have to stop what they are doing at exactly 10am, and they can re-read things that are relevant and skip things that are not easily. There is also a bit more personal accountability because everyone can see what was said in previous days.
- ww520 6y agoTime to dust up the deep fake and some gt-3 standard answers for the standup.
- m463 6y agohmmm... can gpt-3 code too?