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The general answer is that you have up and coming companies like SpaceX (and maybe soon Blue Origin) who are pushing hard to reduce costs and be competitive, ye
by mabbo 6y ago
The general answer is that you have up and coming companies like SpaceX (and maybe soon Blue Origin) who are pushing hard to reduce costs and be competitive, yet ULA, Boeing, Lockheed (ULA is Boeing and Lockheed actually) keep winning contracts where they offer less, but charge more.
And people are left wondering why? And then people begin to notice that those companies have lots of friends working at the Pentagon, NASA, etc. On the latest bids for the moon landers, a high ranking NASA official had to step down because it appears he leaked information about the bids directly to Boeing when it was clear they were going to lose this big contract[0].
Just look at the Commercial Crew program, where private companies bring astronauts to the ISS for NASA, Boeing is being paid 60% more per seat[1]. You would expect that means they're of higher quality- yet here we are in August 2020 and so far they've failed their no-humans-test-flight, while SpaceX has sent and returned two astronauts already.
The real question in my mind is why this latest contract with the Pentagon went 60% ULA, 40% SpaceX when it could just have easily done the 60-40 split the other way, saving a lot of taxpayer money while maintaining identical redundancy.
[0]https://www.space.com/boeing-moon-lander-nasa-doug-loverro-resignation.html https://www.space.com/boeing-moon-lander-nasa-doug-loverro-r...
[1]https://www.space.com/spacex-boeing-commercial-crew-seat-prices.html https://www.space.com/spacex-boeing-commercial-crew-seat-pri...
- simonh 6y agoAs has been pointed out in many posts to this thread, long before your post, there are still capabilities ULA offers that SpaceX doesn’t. That includes vertical integration, which SpaceX will develop but currently doesn’t have, and various fairing and launch site options. SpaceX has yet to achieve direct to GTO, and ULA have a better record of accurate insertion into the desired trajectory, that can be a big deal. ULA also has launch site options SpaceX doesn’t have, specifically while F9 can launch from Vandenburg, Heavy cant yet and the time and cost fir that might nit make economic sense Finally there are some mission profiles even Falcon Heavy isn’t ideal for due to its RP1 fuelled upper stage. There are some missions where the extra Specific Impulse from a Hydrologist upper stage makes a difference. So yes in the longer term many of these issues might be resolvable, but not all and this contract is for specific envisioned missions on a schedule and with known requirements, so nobody is making up numbers here. If it’s 60/40 there will be reasons for that.
- jeffrallen 6y agoI'm not interested in the long term. I want my tax-paying parents to get a fair deal now. Government should work for the people, not for ULA.