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Seems normal. It just says that if they work with you then both you and they have the right to use what you give them. What's the problem? And why are you call

Seems normal. It just says that if they work with you then both you and they have the right to use what you give them. What's the problem? And why are you calling it an incubator? It looks like a Call For Proposals for business propositions. > limited license to exercise any Intellectual Property that you hold in the Submitted Technology What's the "limit"? What's the "submitted technology"? Why do you think they can "copy your hardware"? What hardware?

puzzled_by_ny 6y ago
> And why are you calling it an incubator? It's terminology they used during conversations. On the site they also call it "accelerator". Don't focus on semantics. As is the case for patents, where the blah-blah doesn't matter, only the claims matter, the only thing that matters here is the contract you sign. We could call this thing "A trip to Disneyland" and still the contract terms would rule the relationship.
- obstacle1 6y ago
  > Don't focus on semantics Semantics is the meaning of what you say. It isn't some subordinate type of communication; it is fundamental to communication. If we don't focus on semantics, we don't focus on the meaning of what you said, and we aren't able to judge whether or not what you've said is true. You used a word, presumably to make a factual statement about a thing. We need to know why you think the word applies given the context in order to know what you're trying to communicate. If you don't want to communicate with people, you're free not to. But you did try to communicate with people, so don't be surprised when they ask you to clarify what you said.
  - puzzled_by_ny 6y ago
    It's about the contract, not what you choose to call the thing. Sorry if I offended you. We could call it "Mickey Mouse Playhouse" and it would still not matter. The contract is the only important language here. If you'd like to read and comment on that (links I provided in my post) I am would be very interested in your opinion. I don't care about what the program is called...because in court the contract is what will protect you or hurt you. And, yes, the semantics part is deriving a meaning that does not exist or is irrelevant from my use of the term "incubator" (which, as I explained, the contract authors used with me during email conversations). It's about the contract.
puzzled_by_ny 6y ago
Yet another take. If this is, as you state, just a call for proposals, why in the world are they asking for an irrevocable and transferable license to participants IP that could last up to two years? Put a different way: If this is just a sales call, why would they require such a thing?

puzzled_by_ny 6y ago

> And why are you calling it an incubator? It's terminology they used during conversations. On the site they also call it "accelerator". Don't focus on semantics. As is the case for patents, where the blah-blah doesn't matter, only the claims matter, the only thing that matters here is the contract you sign. We could call this thing "A trip to Disneyland" and still the contract terms would rule the relationship.

obstacle1 6y ago
> Don't focus on semantics Semantics is the meaning of what you say. It isn't some subordinate type of communication; it is fundamental to communication. If we don't focus on semantics, we don't focus on the meaning of what you said, and we aren't able to judge whether or not what you've said is true. You used a word, presumably to make a factual statement about a thing. We need to know why you think the word applies given the context in order to know what you're trying to communicate. If you don't want to communicate with people, you're free not to. But you did try to communicate with people, so don't be surprised when they ask you to clarify what you said.
- puzzled_by_ny 6y ago
  It's about the contract, not what you choose to call the thing. Sorry if I offended you. We could call it "Mickey Mouse Playhouse" and it would still not matter. The contract is the only important language here. If you'd like to read and comment on that (links I provided in my post) I am would be very interested in your opinion. I don't care about what the program is called...because in court the contract is what will protect you or hurt you. And, yes, the semantics part is deriving a meaning that does not exist or is irrelevant from my use of the term "incubator" (which, as I explained, the contract authors used with me during email conversations). It's about the contract.

puzzled_by_ny 6y ago

Yet another take. If this is, as you state, just a call for proposals, why in the world are they asking for an irrevocable and transferable license to participants IP that could last up to two years? Put a different way: If this is just a sales call, why would they require such a thing?