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My theory is that the church and priests have a giant fault at least for me an Orthodox Christian in Romania. When I was a child I become a super believer, they
by simion314 6y ago
My theory is that the church and priests have a giant fault at least for me an Orthodox Christian in Romania. When I was a child I become a super believer, they had a religios cartoon on the only TV channel and the stories were very nice. But then in school you have the priests(religion teachers) fight a losing battle against science by supporting the creation and myths instead on focusing on the more important parts.
I was also into conspiracies and aliens/UFOs and religion also makes sense as a tool to keep the poor suppressed So IMO when the priests were no longer the only source of education then the things collapse for the church, the people in my village are on paper part of the church but in practice based on what they do and not do the story is different. There are some different sects/versions that appeared after the revolution in 1989 that do a better job on converting and keeping their people more engaged but still are talking about the creation myths so this is invalidating some of my points( and I am still mystified how people that studied physics in university(including astronomy) will defend the Genesis as a correct historical thing).
Just so we don't start some mini comment war here, if you are a religious person I am fine with that and I am honestly happy for you, I never ever start discussion with people in the attempt to convert them, they start this conversations and I have to explain where my doubt come from. Also you don't need to try to defend creation her, it will not work and is not the main point for me anyway there are more deeper issues , philosophical issues that even a proof of God existence would not be enough for me to start woshiping him/it.
- skinkestek 6y agoI think you are onto something, here in the west we have. Personally I am a believer but I can discuss astronomy or evolution just fine. It is kind of like wave or particle: I use the model that works in the setting.
- simion314 6y agoYes, I found on youtube now, too late probably , priests/monks that are also scientists and have a better way of talking and focusing on the important things, IMO this kind of true scientist priests could save the church because they can combine them and drop the inaccurate biblical history and focus on the essential part of philosophy.
- madspindel 6y agoYes, christians should really treat the Old Testament as something old. 'Logos' (the greek word describing Christ in the New Testament) means both reason and faith.
- ghthor 6y agoThe hebrew letter text of the 5 books of moses is likely a map or a technical document. See Stan Tenens work from the meru foundation, they've posted all the lectures hes video tapes to YouTube. The first one from 1989 is still one of my favorites. https://youtu.be/OJGW2UANWRE https://youtu.be/OJGW2UANWRE
- ghthor 6y agoThe story of genesis is likely just a robe used to make sure the soul of the text propagated forward in time. The truth about the text of genesis is likely that it is a technical document or map. I personally think it's from an ancient civilization that traveled here from the stars. But it's like a seed of higher consciousness, the patterns in the letter text trigger some type of awaking in our minds as they try to pattern match that opens our consciousness to a wider view of the world. Stan Tenen from the meru foundation discovered the patterning in the text that is incredible. https://youtu.be/midn6ABiZMA https://youtu.be/midn6ABiZMA https://youtu.be/OJGW2UANWRE https://youtu.be/OJGW2UANWRE