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> For all the non-exempt countries, i.e. for most of the world, there is obligatory quarantine on your own dime. Unless your job allows you to work from home, t
by zvrba 6y ago
> For all the non-exempt countries, i.e. for most of the world, there is obligatory quarantine on your own dime. Unless your job allows you to work from home, that's a substantially larger financial penalty than the fine you suggest.
Aaand.. quarantine based on trust in people is eventually going to be ineffective. "Traveling fine" was a minor point, the major point was forced, guarded quarantine upon entry.
I mean, you can go out of a plane, go to a party next day instead of placing yourself in quarantine, infect several people, and.. nothing is going to happen to you. You could and should be prosecuted by "smittevernsparagrafen" but that most likely won't happen even if you somehow DO get identified as the source of the infection.
> Oh come on, this isn't China.
The way people have been partying lately around the country only proves that people can't even uphold simple rules and that a strategy based on trusting that people aren't going to behave stupidly is eventually going to fail.
> Then you are probably also aware that the idea is that the whitelisted countries have a low enough case rate that the authorities believe that closing the border to those countries has little effect.
The large infection cluster that has been brought to Norway this winter came from an Italian ski-resort that has been in a region that would be considered "green" today. The authorities' beliefs contradict concrete evidence.
> This may or may not be correct, but you seem to try to view the situation as negatively as you can.
Well... I look at people's behavior and there need to be real, tangible consequences for "unwanted" / irresponsible behavior.
- kwhitefoot 6y ago> quarantine based on trust in people is eventually going to be ineffective In your country (wherever that is) perhaps, in the UK almost certainly. In Norway it is certainly possible and in fact happened quite near the beginning of the epidemic here. Nonetheless I feel that it is on the whole less of a problem here; solidarity is still a live concept in Norway even though it has been somewhat eroded in recent years. > You could and should be prosecuted by "smittevernsparagrafen" but that most likely won't happen even if you somehow DO get identified as the source of the infection. People have already been prosecuted for breaking quarantine, see for example https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/QoblPV/oslo-40000-i-bot-for-karantenebrudd https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/QoblPV/oslo-40000-i-bo..., https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/0nA4BA/fikk-20000-i-bot-for-aa-ha-festet-i-karantene https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/0nA4BA/fikk-20000-i-bo...
- zvrba 6y ago> People have already been prosecuted for breaking quarantine Oh, good, that's somewhat reassuring to know.