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This really scares the crap out of me. I dont know the potential number of people who will end up voting by mail, but given Covid, I assume that would be signif
by fillskills 6y ago
This really scares the crap out of me. I dont know the potential number of people who will end up voting by mail, but given Covid, I assume that would be significant. Messing with that system will really screw Americas voice and essentially block democracy. What can we do to make sure that our government know that this is unacceptable
- m0zg 6y agoBut we've been told that mail-in voting is "completely safe and secure", have we not? And now it "scares the crap" out of you. How come?
- dmkolobov 6y agoBecause we're seeing the postmaster general, a major Trump donor, take steps that would potentially threaten the efficacy of mail in voting? And while I agree with the GP, it should also be noted that we've been saying "this is unacceptable" about a wide variety of things for the past 4 years, and it hasn't really had much effect, as far as reining in the crazy. It's a scary situation indeed.
- m0zg 6y agoIt's as if, I don't know, mail-in voting were ripe for fraud or something.
- MrRadar 6y agoThis is about interference with the delivery the ballots (both from the election officials to voters and to vice versa), not about the security of the ballots themselves.
- efnx 6y agoBut they’re not and never have been.
- dmkolobov 6y agoIf the past four years have taught us anything, is that just about every aspect of our government is ripe for fraud when the party in charge doesn't care about the well-being of the institutions they supposedly hold dear. It seems like you're trying to make the case that we should listen to the man telling us mail-in votes are fraudulent... because his administration is exhibiting signs of committing said fraud? For what its worth, we've been mail-in voting in Colorado for a while. Works great when the government isn't actively trying to undermine democracy.
- happytoexplain 6y agoVirtually everything is "ripe for fraud" if your definition includes "is theoretically assailable by the US president, directly or by appointee."
- GarrisonPrime 6y agoConsidering about 20% of mail-in ballots have already been disqualified for one reason or another, a drastic change could be exactly what's needed.
- eanzenberg 6y agoExactly. There is so much fraud related to mail-in ballots, mostly on the handling side, not the voting side. This needs to be safeguarded if we go down this route.
- efnx 6y agoSources?
- excalibur 6y agoTFA
- consultanturnot 6y agoI saw no mention of fraud, or mishandling of mail-in ballots, or absentee ballots. The crux of the short article was not on voting fraud but on the new Postmaster DeJoy's actions that are being investigated.
- eanzenberg 6y agoGoogle search away
- blhack 6y agoIf you're talking about the NY primary, it didn't have much to do with the mail, it was mostly people who were unfamiliar with the process and mixed up things like forgetting to sign it. Here's an atlantic article about it: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/new-york-election-failure-mail-in-voting/614446/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/new-yor... That said: I think New York is an example of why the debate about this is worth having. 20% of ballots getting tossed is catastrophic.
- djaque 6y agoI'm also terrified. I thought voting and literally the core of our democracy would be off limits to the current administration, but here we are. Our elections are being undermined to the best of the president's ability. The news over the past few months is honestly something more fit for a third world country on the verge of dictatorship, not the United States.