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> Those without the self control to abstain or exercise moderation are quickly identified as non-management material. Why, exactly? Is management about absti

> Those without the self control to abstain or exercise moderation are quickly identified as non-management material. Why, exactly? Is management about abstinence and moderation or is it about taking difficult decision in difficult times? If someone takes decision on other's people careers based on what they do outside of work, that person is simply stupid. > Perot had been testing the resolve and reliability of the guy Or was he being a jerk?

nkrisc 6y ago
>> Perot had been testing the resolve and reliability of the guy > Or was he being a jerk? Both can be true.
anonymousiam 6y ago
The off-site team-building events are not "outside of work". You are being paid for your presence and provided room and board at a company retreat. You are expected to be up, dressed, fed, and shaved (for men anyway) at 6:45am when things get rolling. Everyone knows this and is expected to be there (unless they are sick). If someone boozes it up the night before and is too hung over to show, it says something about their values (or lack thereof). Perot was a real hard ass, but he was very successful with his investments.
- romanoderoma 6y ago
  > If someone boozes it up the night before and is too hung over to show I was replying to " Those without the self control to abstain or exercise moderation are quickly identified as non-management material." I will never be ready at 6:45 in the morning, I am not a morning person, but I'll be up at 4 am if needed to be, whereas some of my colleagues can't go past 11pm without falling asleep. Management has nothing to do with what you do outside of work, which drinking with colleagues at the open bar is. And why stop at alcohol then? Does eating too much hamburgers at the BBQ counts? Talking too much? Being obsessed with fitness? Playing too much at video games? Where does it ends?

nkrisc 6y ago

>> Perot had been testing the resolve and reliability of the guy > Or was he being a jerk? Both can be true.

anonymousiam 6y ago

The off-site team-building events are not "outside of work". You are being paid for your presence and provided room and board at a company retreat. You are expected to be up, dressed, fed, and shaved (for men anyway) at 6:45am when things get rolling. Everyone knows this and is expected to be there (unless they are sick). If someone boozes it up the night before and is too hung over to show, it says something about their values (or lack thereof). Perot was a real hard ass, but he was very successful with his investments.

romanoderoma 6y ago
> If someone boozes it up the night before and is too hung over to show I was replying to " Those without the self control to abstain or exercise moderation are quickly identified as non-management material." I will never be ready at 6:45 in the morning, I am not a morning person, but I'll be up at 4 am if needed to be, whereas some of my colleagues can't go past 11pm without falling asleep. Management has nothing to do with what you do outside of work, which drinking with colleagues at the open bar is. And why stop at alcohol then? Does eating too much hamburgers at the BBQ counts? Talking too much? Being obsessed with fitness? Playing too much at video games? Where does it ends?