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I find it kinda hilarious that despite this Oatly is very popular in vegan/new age/alternative circles. If I was a vegan I would rather drink organic soy milk.

• Robbsen 6y ago
  And lots of us do. I see Oatly more of a mainstream brand than a vegan brand tbh
• evilsetg 6y ago
  I have similar feelings. The organic soymilk I buy has two ingredients: water and sugar. Reading the ingredient list on oat milks always makes me a bit uneasy in comparison. I do sometimes buy oat milk though since it does go better with tea.
  • evilsetg 6y ago
    I meant water and soybeans for the soymilk :)
• ecmascript 6y ago
  Or almond milk, which actually tastes good compared to soy milk and oatly. If you look at men who are vegan, they are almost always weak and feminine. Maybe that's just the kind of individuals that get drawn into a vegan diet, but I think there might be something else in play.
  • throwanem 6y ago
    Ah, yes, the well known "soy milk turns the frogs gay" analysis, pioneered by that universally respected paragon of factual accuracy, Alex Jones.
    • ecmascript 6y ago
      What are you talking about? I am talking about the vegan diet in general. There is a lot of stuff you're excluding in that, not only milk. There is evidence that doing "manly stuff" for men, like hunting, increases testosterone production. Also a lot of food like red meat, eggs etc increases testosterone production. Something vegans don't eat.
      • throwanem 6y ago
        So what you're saying is, vegan men are more likely to die with a healthy prostate and a full head of hair.
        • ecmascript 6y ago
          No, that is not what I am saying. I am saying that being vegan most likely results in lower testosterone, which is a basic hormone that is very important for males. It is important for all aspects of mens health and well being, especially when you get older.
          • PerfectElement 6y ago
            Vegans actually tend to have higher testosterone: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-... “Vegans had 13% higher T [testosterone] concentration than meat-eaters and 8% higher than vegetarians.” Not only did vegan men have as much testosterone as meat eaters, they actually have 13% MORE of this manly hormone. On the flip side, too much testosterone can be a bad thing because it leads to higher levels of IGF-I – a risk factor for certain cancers. Surprisingly, the report also found this: “Vegan men had on average 9% lower IGF-I levels than meat-eaters.”
          • throwanem 6y ago
            Well, yes. For example, the more of it you have, the likelier you are to develop prostate cancer in later life, and to have worse outcomes from that cancer. That definitely seems important. And eating lots of red meat also lowers your sperm count and quality, apparently (1) - which seems important too, at least if you're interested in siring lots of strong and healthy sons to carry on your line. Which I assume would be important, but who knows? For all I can tell based on what you've said so far, you could just have a taste for really butch tops. Which, fair! Same here. But I don't really feel the need to inquire as to their diet. (1) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/
• thomasahle 6y ago
  > If I was a vegan I would rather drink organic soy milk. Both soy and almond have bad reputations in terms of ecological impact. If one can get the same nutrition from oat, it's a pretty big win environmentally.