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> Hear me out, my chrome-domed friend. Thanks for making me laugh :-) Yes, I do shave my head as well. Sadly, I still don't have the charisma, the fame or the

by Udo 16y ago

> Hear me out, my chrome-domed friend. Thanks for making me laugh :-) Yes, I do shave my head as well. Sadly, I still don't have the charisma, the fame or the good looks of Patrick Steward. Like I said, some people can pull it off, but not that many. And what if Patrick Steward had the choice? Chances are, he'd opt for a full head of hair and probably even more women would find him sexy because of it. Also, I thought Sinéad O'Connor was quite attractive without the hair. That doesn't mean I would recommend it for 99% of the women either. On a personal note, two women told me point blank they'd be attracted to me if I had hair and others have made remarks about how important nice hair is for a man. Sure, it would be great to have other qualities to compensate for this, but since I don't it apparently comes down to hair over baldness.

FooBarWidget 16y ago
Good looks? I'd say Patrick Steward is average looking at best. Any charisma he has comes from his behavior, which is something I believe anybody can change given enough effort.
- ciupicri 16y ago
  > any charisma he has comes from his behavior And his movies.
thaumaturgy 16y ago
There is a (possibly apocryphal) story that, when ST:TNG was to begin filming, Stewart was being encouraged to use a wig "because baldness would have been cured by the 25th century"; his response was that baldness shouldn't be a social stigma in the 25th century. I couldn't quickly verify the story, but, as someone whose gradual pattern baldness can be most gently described as "hilarious", I appreciate it even if it's not true. I also think -- and I'm about to be a lot crude here -- that male baldness is a little like breast size for women. Sure, guys will notice average-to-larger sized breasts, but there's a lot more to how attractive they think a woman is: posture, attitude, a smile, for example. Is baldness a disadvantage? Sure. Does it, by itself, make you unattractive? Nah.
- Udo 16y ago
  I'm not sure it compares to breast size. For instance, I really like women with smaller breasts, the larger ones just don't seem very aesthetic to me (especially with no clothes on). Compared to that, baldness is a style that may look good on a few men; it may look neutral on a few more. But the overwhelming majority of men would be better off (dating-wise) with a full head of hair. All other things being equal, having hair is a plus. Many people are surprised to hear this, but huge breasts can actually be a turn-off to many men. However I never heard a woman say: "I'd find him attractive if only he was bald, that full lustrous head of hair just doesn't do it for me".
  - Mz 16y ago
    Many people are surprised to hear this, but huge breasts can actually be a turn-off to many men. However I never heard a woman say: "I'd find him attractive if only he was bald, that full lustrous head of hair just doesn't do it for me". Many people are surprised to hear it because it rarely gets said. I believe you are the first man I have heard state that he prefers smaller breasts. Just because you don't hear women say "If only he were bald..." doesn't mean there are no women thinking it. I will also note that women tend to talk less about men and their physical attributes than men do about women and their physical attributes. Women are generally not in a good position to pursue sex for mere fun and typically need to consider the possibility that, oops, she might wind up pregnant and then it will matter a good deal more if he is decent, loyal, has a reasonable income and so on. I will also note that lots of women like older men and older men are often losing their hair. So I think that is indirect evidence that some women are perfectly happy to get with a man with less hair. I'm sorry this is such a huge issue for you. But I don't think your argument really holds water.
    - Udo 16y ago
      > I will also note that women tend to talk less about men and their physical attributes than men do about women and their physical attributes This has not been my experience. > I'm sorry this is such a huge issue for you. It's not, actually. Mainly I just enjoy the discussion. Actually, you make an interesting point. I believe there is a social norm involved that tells men they have to like large breasts or else they're gay/weak/whatever. I do know a few men who are really and credibly into huge pendulous breasts, but I also know some who just try to conform to the "standard" outwardly and privately they prefer them smaller. So your point is that women prefer hair because being bald is a social stigma, being an analogous process to the stigmatization of preferring small breasts? I'm not convinced, but it's an interesting thought.

by Udo 16y ago

FooBarWidget 16y ago

Good looks? I'd say Patrick Steward is average looking at best. Any charisma he has comes from his behavior, which is something I believe anybody can change given enough effort.

ciupicri 16y ago
> any charisma he has comes from his behavior And his movies.

thaumaturgy 16y ago

There is a (possibly apocryphal) story that, when ST:TNG was to begin filming, Stewart was being encouraged to use a wig "because baldness would have been cured by the 25th century"; his response was that baldness shouldn't be a social stigma in the 25th century. I couldn't quickly verify the story, but, as someone whose gradual pattern baldness can be most gently described as "hilarious", I appreciate it even if it's not true. I also think -- and I'm about to be a lot crude here -- that male baldness is a little like breast size for women. Sure, guys will notice average-to-larger sized breasts, but there's a lot more to how attractive they think a woman is: posture, attitude, a smile, for example. Is baldness a disadvantage? Sure. Does it, by itself, make you unattractive? Nah.

Udo 16y ago
I'm not sure it compares to breast size. For instance, I really like women with smaller breasts, the larger ones just don't seem very aesthetic to me (especially with no clothes on). Compared to that, baldness is a style that may look good on a few men; it may look neutral on a few more. But the overwhelming majority of men would be better off (dating-wise) with a full head of hair. All other things being equal, having hair is a plus. Many people are surprised to hear this, but huge breasts can actually be a turn-off to many men. However I never heard a woman say: "I'd find him attractive if only he was bald, that full lustrous head of hair just doesn't do it for me".
- Mz 16y ago
  Many people are surprised to hear this, but huge breasts can actually be a turn-off to many men. However I never heard a woman say: "I'd find him attractive if only he was bald, that full lustrous head of hair just doesn't do it for me". Many people are surprised to hear it because it rarely gets said. I believe you are the first man I have heard state that he prefers smaller breasts. Just because you don't hear women say "If only he were bald..." doesn't mean there are no women thinking it. I will also note that women tend to talk less about men and their physical attributes than men do about women and their physical attributes. Women are generally not in a good position to pursue sex for mere fun and typically need to consider the possibility that, oops, she might wind up pregnant and then it will matter a good deal more if he is decent, loyal, has a reasonable income and so on. I will also note that lots of women like older men and older men are often losing their hair. So I think that is indirect evidence that some women are perfectly happy to get with a man with less hair. I'm sorry this is such a huge issue for you. But I don't think your argument really holds water.
  - Udo 16y ago
    > I will also note that women tend to talk less about men and their physical attributes than men do about women and their physical attributes This has not been my experience. > I'm sorry this is such a huge issue for you. It's not, actually. Mainly I just enjoy the discussion. Actually, you make an interesting point. I believe there is a social norm involved that tells men they have to like large breasts or else they're gay/weak/whatever. I do know a few men who are really and credibly into huge pendulous breasts, but I also know some who just try to conform to the "standard" outwardly and privately they prefer them smaller. So your point is that women prefer hair because being bald is a social stigma, being an analogous process to the stigmatization of preferring small breasts? I'm not convinced, but it's an interesting thought.