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Speaking of USDS, how come in August of 2020 we _still_ don't have a government COVID19 website that doesn't suck? One that's trustworthy, that has accurate dat

by m0zg 6y ago

Speaking of USDS, how come in August of 2020 we _still_ don't have a government COVID19 website that doesn't suck? One that's trustworthy, that has accurate data, and decent statistical analysis. Maybe you guys should look into doing your jobs instead of "fighting white supremacists" on taxpayer dime?

JadeNB 6y ago
> Maybe you guys should look into doing your jobs instead of "fighting white supremacists" on taxpayer dime? Wait a moment, you can argue about whose purview exactly this is, but are you saying that fighting white supremacists isn't a good use of taxpayer dollars? It's certainly a cause to which I'd be happy to know my taxes were going.
- m0zg 6y ago
  We already pay for law enforcement and the judicial branch. USDS should be handling technology problems (which US government has a ton of), not be political vigilantes on my dime.
  - JadeNB 6y ago
    > We already pay for law enforcement and the judicial branch. USDS should be handling technology problems (which US government has a ton of), not be political vigilantes on my dime. Ah, yes, that was the argument that I hoped you were making—based on purview (these people aren't in the business of fighting white supremacists), not on whether fighting white supremacists is itself a good idea. Note that, initially, the white supremacism was irrelevant—the issue was just that a government website (which definitely does fall under the purview of USDS) was expected to come under attack—and that, to the extent that it was relevant, this USDS employee immediately reached out to the FBI, whose job this definitely should be. The article gives no indication that any more USDS resources were spent on this than the author's being interviewed by the FBI.
NateEag 6y ago
Even if the title is misapplied and overused, there are actual white supremacists in the US and they do occasionally kill people. I see no reason in the article to doubt her choice of labels.
drak0n1c 6y ago
You may need to dive in a bit past the initial pages, but you can find fine-grained weekly and daily stats and graphs on pages like: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm...

by m0zg 6y ago

JadeNB 6y ago

> Maybe you guys should look into doing your jobs instead of "fighting white supremacists" on taxpayer dime? Wait a moment, you can argue about whose purview exactly this is, but are you saying that fighting white supremacists isn't a good use of taxpayer dollars? It's certainly a cause to which I'd be happy to know my taxes were going.

m0zg 6y ago
We already pay for law enforcement and the judicial branch. USDS should be handling technology problems (which US government has a ton of), not be political vigilantes on my dime.
- JadeNB 6y ago
  > We already pay for law enforcement and the judicial branch. USDS should be handling technology problems (which US government has a ton of), not be political vigilantes on my dime. Ah, yes, that was the argument that I hoped you were making—based on purview (these people aren't in the business of fighting white supremacists), not on whether fighting white supremacists is itself a good idea. Note that, initially, the white supremacism was irrelevant—the issue was just that a government website (which definitely does fall under the purview of USDS) was expected to come under attack—and that, to the extent that it was relevant, this USDS employee immediately reached out to the FBI, whose job this definitely should be. The article gives no indication that any more USDS resources were spent on this than the author's being interviewed by the FBI.

NateEag 6y ago

Even if the title is misapplied and overused, there are actual white supremacists in the US and they do occasionally kill people. I see no reason in the article to doubt her choice of labels.

drak0n1c 6y ago

You may need to dive in a bit past the initial pages, but you can find fine-grained weekly and daily stats and graphs on pages like: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm...