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really? my impression is that snopes is pretty good. why do you say it isn't?

theredlion 6y ago
I've noticed on a number of occasions what appears to be what I would consider a very staunch difference in Snopes' declaration of a claim vs what they say below in their explanation
- coolgeek 6y ago
  > I've noticed > on a number of occasions > what appears to be > what I would consider (just setting the stage here... making sure we all understand the underpinning of the argument) > a very staunch difference in Snopes' declaration of a claim vs what they say below in their explanation Assuming, for the sake of argument, that there is an appreciable difference between the categorization and the basis/justification on which that particular categorization was chosen, that is a well-known problem with discrete binning. As others have noted, however, in their demand for citations, it is unlikely that any such appreciable differences actually exist.
  - theredlion 6y ago
    No. You provide examples of why you think Snopes is worthy of believing. There is no reason to believe them simply due to the fact that they are posited as an unbiased site. They present information in bad faith then contradict themselves on the exact same page in the explanation of their claim to validity. Burden of proof is on he who makes an outrageous claim, so by all means feel free to state your case as to why you think a particular, clearly untrustworthy website, is worthy of trust
    - Can_Not 6y ago
      Snopes sort of just is what it seems to be... I don't expect snopes to be right 100% about everything, but you're the one making an "outrageous claim" while demanding other people prove your vague unsourced allegations wrong.
jbdigriz 6y ago
Snopes routinely picks up on unsavory truths regarding the left and then proceed on a campaign of disinformation warfare by distorting the truths into their own fabricated strawman that can be "debunked" while simultaneously spending a princely sum on SEO to insure searches for said unsavory truths are redirected to their fever dream. It's a DNC digital mercenary site and routinely muddies the waters at best. Do a little reading up on the guy who started that site. While I generally prefer to criticize arguments instead of their presenters, the fact that this guy is an actual lying fraud says everything about his credibility - and also the leftist/progressive tribal cult that relish in his church

I've noticed on a number of occasions what appears to be what I would consider a very staunch difference in Snopes' declaration of a claim vs what they say below in their explanation

coolgeek 6y ago
> I've noticed > on a number of occasions > what appears to be > what I would consider (just setting the stage here... making sure we all understand the underpinning of the argument) > a very staunch difference in Snopes' declaration of a claim vs what they say below in their explanation Assuming, for the sake of argument, that there is an appreciable difference between the categorization and the basis/justification on which that particular categorization was chosen, that is a well-known problem with discrete binning. As others have noted, however, in their demand for citations, it is unlikely that any such appreciable differences actually exist.
- theredlion 6y ago
  No. You provide examples of why you think Snopes is worthy of believing. There is no reason to believe them simply due to the fact that they are posited as an unbiased site. They present information in bad faith then contradict themselves on the exact same page in the explanation of their claim to validity. Burden of proof is on he who makes an outrageous claim, so by all means feel free to state your case as to why you think a particular, clearly untrustworthy website, is worthy of trust
  - Can_Not 6y ago
    Snopes sort of just is what it seems to be... I don't expect snopes to be right 100% about everything, but you're the one making an "outrageous claim" while demanding other people prove your vague unsourced allegations wrong.

jbdigriz 6y ago

Snopes routinely picks up on unsavory truths regarding the left and then proceed on a campaign of disinformation warfare by distorting the truths into their own fabricated strawman that can be "debunked" while simultaneously spending a princely sum on SEO to insure searches for said unsavory truths are redirected to their fever dream. It's a DNC digital mercenary site and routinely muddies the waters at best. Do a little reading up on the guy who started that site. While I generally prefer to criticize arguments instead of their presenters, the fact that this guy is an actual lying fraud says everything about his credibility - and also the leftist/progressive tribal cult that relish in his church