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This doctor[1] is basically claiming that all of Sweden, or the vast bulk, have had SARS-CoV-2 and are now immune. This goes completely contrary to every medica

This doctor[1] is basically claiming that all of Sweden, or the vast bulk, have had SARS-CoV-2 and are now immune. This goes completely contrary to every medical authority, and is the sort of claim that generally gets something removed as disinformation. Disinformation does well on HN. Of course you get to the article's slant when it claims that Sweden is "normal" right now, which is an outrageous lie. Virtually all events are cancelled. Social engagements are non-existent. Streets are empty. Huge percentages of people work from home. Bars and restaurants were closed for a period of time in hot areas, and regardless have operated under a significantly reduced capacity. Sweden's summer school break began at the PEAK of their outbreak, and we'll see what happens when they return in a little over a week. Sweden's societal reaction to COVID-19 is basically optimal as a general society, and some parts of the US that are "locked down" have much higher social engagement. Either we've redefined normal to be "completely and absolutely unlike the before times", or this guy is just twisting reality pretty generously because he likes the views, particularly among a certain conspiratorial segment of the US population (a Swedish MD whose blog is in English). [1] An MD who has extraordinarily little expertise in virology or immunology. Yet he discounts immunity tests. This is like a JavaScript developer telling you why Metal is better than Vulkan.

supernova87a 6y ago
Yes, I was noticing this too -- author doesn't state whether the country is locked down and social distancing/masks, etc. now. If so, they've only stabilized because they adopted the recommended measures finally.
- refurb 6y ago
  First paragraph - "Unlike other countries, Sweden never went in to complete lockdown. Non-essential businesses have remained open, people have continued to go to cafés and restaurants, children have remained in school, and very few people have bothered with face masks in public."
  - hn_check 6y ago
    Sweden has adopted virtually every recommendations without it being mandated. This is an enormous difference from some Florida Man arguing why lockdowns are unnecessary. As much as people focus on face masks, in Sweden the sparsity of people given their response makes it much less of a necessity. https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/i58jjj/helgtr%C3%A5d_coronavirus_20200807_09/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/i58jjj/helgtr%C3%A5... There you go -- read about Swedes talking about their COVID-19 experience. It is a universe removed from normal, or what Florida-man-using-Sweden-as-their-no-biggie-example claims. Here you go - https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/nastan-alla-fick-corona-efter-fest-i-dals-ed https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/nastan-alla-fick-coro... Someone had an ill considered party. Despite the amazing herd immunity nonsense this guy is arguing (again, contrary to the entire expert community), most of the partiers got COVID. Ooops!
    - refurb 6y ago
      So if I understand you correctly, although Sweden hasn't closed schools, children aren't attending? And although non-essential businesses aren't closed, Swedes aren't going to those stores? And masks aren't mandated, but most people are wearing them?
      - hn_check 6y ago
        The snark is adorable and comically out of place. Swedish schools closed for the summer break just as COVID was peaking. They return in just over a week. Businesses are sparse because few people are shopping. Restaurants and bars were closed, and other than that have strict reduced occupancy. But Florida man is sure that Everything Is Normal. It's hilarity. That "look they didn't close their schools"...when they were closed regardless. Hurr. "And masks aren't mandated, but most people are wearing them?" Masks are necessary when you're in close proximity to other people. Swedes aren't getting in close proximity to other people. Are you getting this? The Cult of Idiocy that has overtaken the US isn't there in Sweden. Florida in their highest level of lockdown has dramatically more social interaction than Sweden minus it.

supernova87a 6y ago

Yes, I was noticing this too -- author doesn't state whether the country is locked down and social distancing/masks, etc. now. If so, they've only stabilized because they adopted the recommended measures finally.

refurb 6y ago
First paragraph - "Unlike other countries, Sweden never went in to complete lockdown. Non-essential businesses have remained open, people have continued to go to cafés and restaurants, children have remained in school, and very few people have bothered with face masks in public."
- hn_check 6y ago
  Sweden has adopted virtually every recommendations without it being mandated. This is an enormous difference from some Florida Man arguing why lockdowns are unnecessary. As much as people focus on face masks, in Sweden the sparsity of people given their response makes it much less of a necessity. https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/i58jjj/helgtr%C3%A5d_coronavirus_20200807_09/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/i58jjj/helgtr%C3%A5... There you go -- read about Swedes talking about their COVID-19 experience. It is a universe removed from normal, or what Florida-man-using-Sweden-as-their-no-biggie-example claims. Here you go - https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/nastan-alla-fick-corona-efter-fest-i-dals-ed https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/nastan-alla-fick-coro... Someone had an ill considered party. Despite the amazing herd immunity nonsense this guy is arguing (again, contrary to the entire expert community), most of the partiers got COVID. Ooops!
  - refurb 6y ago
    So if I understand you correctly, although Sweden hasn't closed schools, children aren't attending? And although non-essential businesses aren't closed, Swedes aren't going to those stores? And masks aren't mandated, but most people are wearing them?
    - hn_check 6y ago
      The snark is adorable and comically out of place. Swedish schools closed for the summer break just as COVID was peaking. They return in just over a week. Businesses are sparse because few people are shopping. Restaurants and bars were closed, and other than that have strict reduced occupancy. But Florida man is sure that Everything Is Normal. It's hilarity. That "look they didn't close their schools"...when they were closed regardless. Hurr. "And masks aren't mandated, but most people are wearing them?" Masks are necessary when you're in close proximity to other people. Swedes aren't getting in close proximity to other people. Are you getting this? The Cult of Idiocy that has overtaken the US isn't there in Sweden. Florida in their highest level of lockdown has dramatically more social interaction than Sweden minus it.