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the german gdp is down over 10 percent. A decade of growth is gone because of this failed policy. The young generation will suffer from this for a long time. Se

the german gdp is down over 10 percent. A decade of growth is gone because of this failed policy. The young generation will suffer from this for a long time. Seems like the current politicians dont care about our future.

mcguire 6y ago
What would be the cost of not having a "failed policy"? Panic when hospitals start refusing patients?
- schemy 6y ago
  Look at Sweden?
chki 6y ago
>the german gdp is down over 10 percent. A decade of growth is gone because of this failed policy. The swedish GDP is down 9% despite them (according to the article which is misrepresenting a lot of things) not locking down at all. Even if Germany took a completely different approach (which would have led to a New York Style situation in the whole country) there would basically not be a difference in gdp numbers.
- kmm 6y ago
  Where are you getting those numbers? Swedish GDP is up this quarter, as about the only nation in Europe
  - chki 6y ago
    The official numbers from the statistic agency in sweden https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subject-area/national-accounts/national-accounts/national-accounts-quarterly-and-annual-estimates/pong/statistical-news/national-accounts-second-quarter-2020/ https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subje...
    - kmm 6y ago
      Those are preliminary flash estimates, we'll see how they hold up in a month. Even if true, it's still less down than any other European nations, and the only one not in a recession, because you're not taking the previous quarter into account as well.
      - chki 6y ago
        >Those are preliminary flash estimates, we'll see how they hold up in a month. > Swedish GDP is up this quarter, as about the only nation in Europe so... is it possible to talk about the estimated gdp right now or not? Because those two statements don't fit together.
        kmm 6y ago
        I communicated badly and meant the last quarter for which we have final results, Q1. Technically, "this" quarter is Q3 and we're already halfway.
- ballenf 6y ago
  Could that be the result of trade with lockdown countries falling?
rzwitserloot 6y ago
This is so callous. You're casually talking about the deaths of hundreds of thousands, maybe a million people. _Of course_ your government cares. They _also_ care about needless death. They're trying to walk the tightrope. If you want a look at a country that just goes: Eh, whatever - check out sweden, and the US. Which have at least as much economic damage, if not far more.
- henrikschroder 6y ago
  > If you want a look at a country that just goes: Eh, whatever - check out sweden You couldn't be more wrong.

mcguire 6y ago

What would be the cost of not having a "failed policy"? Panic when hospitals start refusing patients?

schemy 6y ago
Look at Sweden?

chki 6y ago

>the german gdp is down over 10 percent. A decade of growth is gone because of this failed policy. The swedish GDP is down 9% despite them (according to the article which is misrepresenting a lot of things) not locking down at all. Even if Germany took a completely different approach (which would have led to a New York Style situation in the whole country) there would basically not be a difference in gdp numbers.

kmm 6y ago
Where are you getting those numbers? Swedish GDP is up this quarter, as about the only nation in Europe
- chki 6y ago
  The official numbers from the statistic agency in sweden https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subject-area/national-accounts/national-accounts/national-accounts-quarterly-and-annual-estimates/pong/statistical-news/national-accounts-second-quarter-2020/ https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subje...
  - kmm 6y ago
    Those are preliminary flash estimates, we'll see how they hold up in a month. Even if true, it's still less down than any other European nations, and the only one not in a recession, because you're not taking the previous quarter into account as well.
    - chki 6y ago
      >Those are preliminary flash estimates, we'll see how they hold up in a month. > Swedish GDP is up this quarter, as about the only nation in Europe so... is it possible to talk about the estimated gdp right now or not? Because those two statements don't fit together.
      - kmm 6y ago
        I communicated badly and meant the last quarter for which we have final results, Q1. Technically, "this" quarter is Q3 and we're already halfway.
ballenf 6y ago
Could that be the result of trade with lockdown countries falling?

rzwitserloot 6y ago

This is so callous. You're casually talking about the deaths of hundreds of thousands, maybe a million people. _Of course_ your government cares. They _also_ care about needless death. They're trying to walk the tightrope. If you want a look at a country that just goes: Eh, whatever - check out sweden, and the US. Which have at least as much economic damage, if not far more.

henrikschroder 6y ago
> If you want a look at a country that just goes: Eh, whatever - check out sweden You couldn't be more wrong.