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Unfortunately we could never be free of PACER just through RECAP because of new documents.

joecool1029 6y ago
Anyone can help though without incurring a financial penalty. Install recap extension, make a PACER account, and request new documents. Extension automatically uploads what you request and it'll show up on courtlistener free for all. Keep it under $30/quarter and PACER waives the fees.
- voisin 6y ago
  Is there a way to automate this to get Recap and PACER to converge on coverage?
  - akvadrako 6y ago
    It wouldn’t be hard technically but who will pay for it?
    - Firerouge 6y ago
      Nobody, if you keep it under $30 per quarter per contributing user
      - xxpor 6y ago
        It almost strikes me as sort of like a torrent or something like Folding@Home. If everyone signed up to the service and provided their credentials (lets ignore the obvious security issues here), when someone requested a document via RECAP it could use the accounts that have signed up. It would use each account until it got near the $30 threshold and then move on to the next one.
  - zucker42 6y ago
    PACER would not cooperate with this. Also, the problem with automating it is that accounts require a credit card, so you'd have to give the automation script the ability to charge your credit card (if there's a bug for example).
    - Reelin 6y ago
      I don't think the idea is full headless automation but rather some way of coordinating which set of new documents should be retrieved by each volunteer (until either their free limit or willingness to donate time runs out). Maximizing efficiency in this way would presumably increase overall coverage.
- lsiebert 6y ago
  It would be interesting to let people sign up and hand over credentials for recap to automate downloading of other people's requests, with the understanding that you could cancel at any time and that if the automated downloading went over budget such that you were charged, you would be reimbursed.

Anyone can help though without incurring a financial penalty. Install recap extension, make a PACER account, and request new documents. Extension automatically uploads what you request and it'll show up on courtlistener free for all. Keep it under $30/quarter and PACER waives the fees.

voisin 6y ago
Is there a way to automate this to get Recap and PACER to converge on coverage?
- akvadrako 6y ago
  It wouldn’t be hard technically but who will pay for it?
  - Firerouge 6y ago
    Nobody, if you keep it under $30 per quarter per contributing user
    - xxpor 6y ago
      It almost strikes me as sort of like a torrent or something like Folding@Home. If everyone signed up to the service and provided their credentials (lets ignore the obvious security issues here), when someone requested a document via RECAP it could use the accounts that have signed up. It would use each account until it got near the $30 threshold and then move on to the next one.
- zucker42 6y ago
  PACER would not cooperate with this. Also, the problem with automating it is that accounts require a credit card, so you'd have to give the automation script the ability to charge your credit card (if there's a bug for example).
  - Reelin 6y ago
    I don't think the idea is full headless automation but rather some way of coordinating which set of new documents should be retrieved by each volunteer (until either their free limit or willingness to donate time runs out). Maximizing efficiency in this way would presumably increase overall coverage.
lsiebert 6y ago
It would be interesting to let people sign up and hand over credentials for recap to automate downloading of other people's requests, with the understanding that you could cancel at any time and that if the automated downloading went over budget such that you were charged, you would be reimbursed.