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Why would people be willing to pay $99/year for Hey but not willing to download a seperate app store?

valuearb 6y ago
Very, very few people want to pay $99/year for Hey. Their needs don’t represent the needs of iPhone users in general. And if Hey is typical of the vast majority of SAAS services, they pay affiliate fees and other marketing fees based on a percentage of sales to third parties that promote their service. So why not play Apple their 15% for a seamless in-app purchase system to add new users with?
- madeofpalk 6y ago
  > So why not play Apple their 15% for a seamless in-app purchase system to add new users with? Hey has responded very specifically to this https://hey.com/apple/iap/ https://hey.com/apple/iap/ Their main objection to this is that they want to own the relationship with the customer. They want to be able to issue a refund or account credit or discount or hardship exceptions, which you cannot do through Apple's App Store.
  - valuearb 6y ago
    I can’t do any of that if I sell products through Walmart, Target, or any retailer but it’s still worth it. I don’t think Hey is quantifying the benefits appropriately.
    - julianozen 6y ago
      That is possible, but right now Hey does not have the ability to weigh its options at all and do what’s best for its business. If they had their app distributed elsewhere and they were losing customers, they could choose to work with apple, but right now they have no choice. At the same time, apple would have to earn its relationship with developers like target and Walmart have to do with their suppliers.
    - danShumway 6y ago
      Nevertheless, Hey should be able to weigh those benefits on their own and make their own choice as to whether or not it's worthwhile. There are plenty of companies and individuals that have chosen to direct-sell rather than offer products through other retailers. It's a choice they can make, foolish or not.
    - Treblemaker 6y ago
      I've purchased many products from local retailers that contain explicit instructions from the manufacturer to NOT contact the retailer if there are any issues, but to contact them directly. So it seems it is possible.
      - vineyardmike 6y ago
        Yea, but how many people will do anything but return it to the retailer if there are issues? I know I wouldn't contact them directly.

Very, very few people want to pay $99/year for Hey. Their needs don’t represent the needs of iPhone users in general. And if Hey is typical of the vast majority of SAAS services, they pay affiliate fees and other marketing fees based on a percentage of sales to third parties that promote their service. So why not play Apple their 15% for a seamless in-app purchase system to add new users with?

madeofpalk 6y ago
> So why not play Apple their 15% for a seamless in-app purchase system to add new users with? Hey has responded very specifically to this https://hey.com/apple/iap/ https://hey.com/apple/iap/ Their main objection to this is that they want to own the relationship with the customer. They want to be able to issue a refund or account credit or discount or hardship exceptions, which you cannot do through Apple's App Store.
- valuearb 6y ago
  I can’t do any of that if I sell products through Walmart, Target, or any retailer but it’s still worth it. I don’t think Hey is quantifying the benefits appropriately.
  - julianozen 6y ago
    That is possible, but right now Hey does not have the ability to weigh its options at all and do what’s best for its business. If they had their app distributed elsewhere and they were losing customers, they could choose to work with apple, but right now they have no choice. At the same time, apple would have to earn its relationship with developers like target and Walmart have to do with their suppliers.
  - danShumway 6y ago
    Nevertheless, Hey should be able to weigh those benefits on their own and make their own choice as to whether or not it's worthwhile. There are plenty of companies and individuals that have chosen to direct-sell rather than offer products through other retailers. It's a choice they can make, foolish or not.
  - Treblemaker 6y ago
    I've purchased many products from local retailers that contain explicit instructions from the manufacturer to NOT contact the retailer if there are any issues, but to contact them directly. So it seems it is possible.
    - vineyardmike 6y ago
      Yea, but how many people will do anything but return it to the retailer if there are issues? I know I wouldn't contact them directly.